What is Eikonalization in High Energy Hadronic Interaction Models?

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The discussion centers around the term "eikonalization" in the context of high energy hadronic interaction models. Participants seek to clarify its meaning, applications, and relevant literature, particularly in relation to concepts like unitarization and the inclusive cross section of jet productions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion over the definition of "eikonalization," noting it is described vaguely as a type of unitarization of an operator.
  • Another participant mentions the "Eikonal approximation" and suggests that Wikipedia provides a good explanation.
  • A participant references the "eikonal survival factor" in exclusive measurements, indicating its role in accounting for interactions between spectator partons.
  • One participant shares a specific article related to the relativistic eikonal approximation, suggesting it may be useful for understanding the term.
  • Another participant mentions having seen the term in the context of the Sybill model, providing a DOI for a relevant paper by Sergey Ostapchenko.

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Participants generally express uncertainty about the term "eikonalization," with no consensus on its definition or application. Multiple viewpoints and references to literature are presented without resolution.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the lack of clear definitions and examples in the literature regarding "eikonalization," indicating that the term may depend on specific contexts within high energy hadronic interaction models.

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I'm doing some reading about high energy hadronic interaction models, and now and there some papers mention the term "eikonalization". Yet, I could not find any definition about it anywhere, except a vague one that states it is a kind of unitarization of an operator (yet I cannot understand how is it different from a de facto unitarization or how could the concept apply for something as the inclusive cross section of jet productions in the above mentioned hadronic interaction models).

Could anyone explain me the meaning of term or point me up to a paper where I can read more about it? Thanks!
 
Sadly no, this is all information I could get. Thanks by the courtesy, even it being automated.
 
Unfortunately I'm also not familiar with this. Do you have an example for a paper/book where "eikonalization" is used in this context?
 
The only way I remember seeing the term was as the "Eikonal approximation". Wikipedia gives a good explanation of the "Eikonal approximation" if you google it.
 
Tomishiyo said:
I'm doing some reading about high energy hadronic interaction models, and now and there some papers mention the term "eikonalization". Yet, I could not find any definition about it anywhere, except a vague one that states it is a kind of unitarization of an operator (yet I cannot understand how is it different from a de facto unitarization or how could the concept apply for something as the inclusive cross section of jet productions in the above mentioned hadronic interaction models).

Could anyone explain me the meaning of term or point me up to a paper where I can read more about it? Thanks!
I think that the following article could be useful to you. Unfortunately, I have only a hard copy, I don't know if it is available for free on the web. You can see the first page for free here:
http://www.readcube.com/articles/10.1002/prop.19740221002

The eikonolization I am familiar with is also referred to the relativistic eikonal approximation. The following article may be useful

Validity of the Relativistic Eikonal Approximation
George Tiktopoulos and S. B. Treiman
Phys. Rev. D 2, 805 – Published 15 August 1970I
 
I have come across the term 'eikonal survival factor' in the context of exclusive measurements. It is a factor that accounts for the fact we don't want extraneous interactions between spectator partons that would otherwise populate rapidity gaps used to select exclusive events. I am not sure of the context you are working, however.
 
mfb said:
Maybe one of our local QFT experts can help. I'm sure I forgot some, but that should be a good start (they get a message that they were mentioned here): @vanhees71, @Orodruin, @Vanadium 50, @Charles Link, @nrqed, @samalkhaiat, @ohwilleke, @ShayanJ
It really feels good to be on that list and I wish I could be, but I'm not a local QFT expert. I'm gradually learning it as I progress in my master's thesis.
 
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Thank you all by the responses, specially thanks to @mfb for the mentions and @nrqed for the reading recommendations.

I've seen the term in the context of hadronic high energy interaction models, specifficaly, I was reading about the Sybill model. The paper in question is authored by Sergey Ostapchenko, here is the DOI of the article: http://dx.doi.org/10.1051/epjconf/201612004003
 

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