What is the area bounded by y = 8 – 2x - x^2 and the x-axis?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the area bounded by the curve defined by the function y = 8 – 2x - x^2 and the x-axis. Participants explore different methods of integration and boundary identification, with a focus on the mathematical steps involved in determining the area.

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  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Homework-related
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes calculating the area by identifying the intersection points of the function with the x-axis, stating that the roots are x = -4 and x = 2.
  • Another participant suggests using integration to find the area, stating that the area A can be expressed as an integral from -4 to 2 of the function f(x) = 8 - 2x - x^2.
  • A different approach is introduced involving a change of variables to simplify the integral, leading to a calculation of the area using the properties of even functions.
  • One participant challenges the mathematical expressions and steps provided by another, indicating that the notation and calculations presented were incorrect or misleading.
  • There is a mention of a participant preparing for a final exam, indicating a personal context to the discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the correct approach to calculating the area, with some methods being contested. There is no consensus on the final area calculation, as participants present conflicting interpretations of the integration process and the mathematical expressions involved.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note potential confusion in the notation used for the calculations, particularly regarding the variable assignments and the representation of the anti-derivative. There are also concerns about the clarity of the steps leading to the area calculation.

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Calculate the area of the region bounded by the graph of the function y = 8 – 2x - x^2 and the x-axis
Y = 8 - 2- x^2
0 = 8 – 2 – x^2
(-x – 4)(x – 2)
- x – 4 = 0 and x – 2 = 0
-x = 4 x = 2
X = - 4

Do I do this?

Y = 8 -2x -x^2
= 8x - (2x^2)/2 - x^3/3
= 8 - x^2 - x^3/3
= [8x - x^2 - x^3/3] – [8x - x^2 - x^3/3]
= [(8x 2) - 2^2 - 2^3/3] – [(8 x -4) - 〖-4〗^2 - 〖-4〗^3/3]
= [16 – 4 + 8/3] – [-32 + 16 - 64/3]
= 141/3 – [-16 - 311/3]
= 141/3 – [-16 + 211/3]
= 141/3 - 5 1/3
Area = 9 units
 
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Define the boundaries:

$$f(x)=8-2x-x^2$$

$$g(x)=0$$

Calculate the places where the boundaries intersect:

$$f(x)=g(x)$$

$$8-2x-x^2=0$$

$$x^2+2x-8=0$$

$$(x+4)(x-2)=0$$

$$x\in\{-4,2\}$$

Now, we see that:

$$f(-1)=9>g(-1)$$

And so we conclude that on $(-4,2)$, we must have:

$$f(x)>g(x)$$

And so the area $A$ in question is given by:

$$A=\int_{-4}^{2} f(x)-g(x)\,dx=\int_{-4}^{2} 8-2x-x^2\,dx$$

Let's utilize some symmetry here, and use:

$$u=x+1\,\therefore\,du=dx$$

And we may state:

$$A=\int_{-3}^{3} 8-2(u-1)-(u-1)^2\,du=\int_{-3}^{3} 9-u^2\,du$$

Using the even-function rule, we now have:

$$A=2\int_{0}^{3} 9-u^2\,du=2\left[9u-\frac{1}{3}u^3\right]_0^3=\frac{2}{3}\left[27u-u^3\right]_0^3=\frac{2}{3}\left(3^4-3^3\right)=2\cdot3^2\left(3-1\right)=(2\cdot3)^2=6^2=36$$
 
Thank you I have my final exam this afternoon to finish high school.
 
Noah said:
Calculate the area of the region bounded by the graph of the function y = 8 – 2x - x^2 and the x-axis
Y = 8 - 2- x^2
0 = 8 – 2 – x^2
(-x – 4)(x – 2)
- x – 4 = 0 and x – 2 = 0
-x = 4 x = 2
X = - 4

Do I do this?

Y = 8 -2x -x^2
= 8x - (2x^2)/2 - x^3/3
No, if Y= 8- 2x- x^2 then Y is not also equal to 8x- (2x^2/2)- x^3/3!
Yes, I know you meant that this is anti-derivative of Y but writing
"Y= ****
= ..."
means that they are both equal to Y.

= 8 - x^2 - x^3/3
= [8x - x^2 - x^3/3] – [8x - x^2 - x^3/3]
and this is quite obviously equal to 0! Again, this is not what you mean.

= [(8x 2) - 2^2 - 2^3/3] – [(8 x -4) - 〖-4〗^2 - 〖-4〗^3/3]
This is what you should have written before- although it is not a good idea to use "x" as the variable in one expression and as the multiplication sign in the next! Use "(8)(2)" instead.

= [16 – 4 + 8/3] – [-32 + 16 - 64/3]
= 141/3 – [-16 - 311/3]
= 141/3 – [-16 + 211/3]
= 141/3 - 5 1/3
Area = 9 units
 

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