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The discussion centers on the theoretical basis for detecting Weakly Interacting Massive Particles (WIMPs) through their interactions with atomic nuclei in normal matter. Participants explore the nature of these interactions, the rarity of detection, and the conceptual challenges surrounding the understanding of WIMPs.

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  • Exploratory
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question the basis for detecting WIMPs, particularly given their weak interaction with matter.
  • It is noted that WIMPs may collide with atomic nuclei, but such events are rare due to the vast empty space in matter.
  • One participant suggests that WIMPs could be referred to as "infrequently interacting massive particles" (IIMPs) to emphasize their rare interactions.
  • There is a discussion about the probabilistic nature of particle interactions, with references to quantum mechanics and examples like Rutherford Scattering.
  • A metaphor involving a battlefield is used to illustrate the rarity of interactions between particles.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying levels of understanding and confusion regarding WIMPs and their interactions. There is no consensus on the clarity of the concept, and multiple viewpoints on the nature of WIMPs and their detectability remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the hypothetical nature of WIMPs and express uncertainty about their functions and interactions. The discussion reflects a range of familiarity with the underlying physics concepts.

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What is the basis for the theory that WIMPs could be detected by seeing a vibration in the atomic nucleus of normal matter? If they (all) really do interact so weakly, why do scientist think they might be able to detect just a few??

an explanation in layman's terms would be great. thanks?
 
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In simplest terms, as WIMPS pass through matter, they may collide with something. The event is very rare, since matter is mostly empty space.
 


WIMPs are Weakly Interacting Massive Particles, not Non Interacting Massive Particles. Although the interaction is weak, it is not zero, so occasionally they collide with an atomic nucleus.
 


blah! the more i try to read about wimps and weak force (which i don't really understand), the more i get confused. so wimps could also be referred to as iimps (infrequently interacting massive particles)? and since they "may collide" does that mean if it happens, it is only by chance (rather than a purposeful interaction)? if so,then how is it at all an "interacting" particle? hence, my original question. also, i do understand that they are a hypothetical particle, but I'm not finding that fact useful at this point.

clearly i am way in over my head; i don't have any formal training in physics. it's just a frivolous hobby and I'm struggling to wrap my head around this one.
 


i also do not have a clear understanding of a WIMPs function.
 


sahmgeek said:
and since they "may collide" does that mean if it happens, it is only by chance (rather than a purposeful interaction)?

Yes. All interactions at the level of elementary particles are 'only by chance'. Our fundamental theory of particle interactions, known as quantum mechanics, can only predict the probability of an interaction, and most physicists believe that this is all we will ever be able to predict. Try looking up 'Rutherford Scattering' (when Wikipedia comes back on line). Rutherford shot alpha particles at a gold foil and found that some of the particles went straight through the foil, and others were scattered at various angles.
 


Think about a civil war battlefield with tens of thousand of soldiers on both sides all shooting at each other. On RARE occasions, two bullets would actually hit each other and there have even been a couple of documented cases (I am sure I recall) of bullets fused to each other and found later (MUCH later) on the battlefield. It's a crude analogy but reasonable.

I like your "IMPS" designation.
 

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