What is the correct net balanced equation for this redox reaction?

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The discussion revolves around the balancing of a redox reaction involving silver and nitrate ions. Participants explore the correct net balanced equation, the identification of oxidized and reduced substances, and the proper half-reactions for both oxidation and reduction processes.

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  • One participant presents a proposed redox reaction: Ag + (NO3-) -> (Ag+) + NO, identifying silver as oxidized and nitrate as reduced.
  • Another participant challenges the oxidation state of nitrogen in nitrate, suggesting it should be +5, leading to a different interpretation of the half-reaction for nitrate reduction.
  • A participant discusses the method of balancing charges in redox reactions, providing an example with permanganate and suggesting a similar approach for nitrate.
  • There is a correction regarding the need for identical charges on both sides of the reaction rather than requiring them to be zero.
  • A later reply presents a revised overall reaction: 3Ag + 4H + (NO3-) -> (3Ag+) + NO + 2H2O, seeking confirmation of its correctness.

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Participants express differing views on the correct half-reaction for nitrate and the overall balancing of the redox reaction. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the final confirmation of the net balanced equation.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note that earlier attempts at balancing charges were incorrect, highlighting the importance of ensuring identical charges on both sides of the equation. There is also mention of potential spectator ions, though none are identified in the current context.

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Hello guys. I have been a lurker at these forums for quite a while now, they are very helpful if you have run into a snag in your homework. :)

What I have here is a redox reaction, and I will be very grateful if someone could confirm my answers.

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Equation: Ag + (NO3-) -> (Ag+) + NO

Substance reduced : Nitrate
Substance oxidized : Silver
Half reaction for oxidation : Ag - > (Ag+) + (e-)
Half reaction for reduction: NO3- + (4H+) + (e-) -> 2H2O + NO
Net balanced equation : (NO3-) + (4H+) + Ag -> 2H2O + NO + (Ag+)
Reduced equation : (NO3-) + (4H+) + Ag -> 2H2O + NO + (Ag+)

I am particularly unsure of the net balanced equation. I know I am supposed to cancel out spectator ions, but I don't think any exist within this particular reaction. Please excuse any of my blunders, I am terrible at Chemistry. :(

Edit: Is there a way to remove forum formatting ? I had everything lined up neatly...
 
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Your nitrate half-reaction seems wrong. NO3- should have an "oxidation" state of +5, since the three oxygens contribute a -6; so unknown + (-6) = -1, the unknown for Nitrogen is +5. Your product of NO (nitrogen monoxide?) would yield a +2 for the Nitrogen. Nitrogen then changes from +5 to +2, a gain of 3 electrons.

You seem to have enough skill in balancing for the Hydrogens, the Oxygens, and the Waters, so you can restart from here.
 
Hmm. I must be mistaken, because I was under the impression that when balancing charges, only the sum of the net charge of all the molecules has to be taken.

For example, given this reaction:
8H+ + MnO4¯ ---> Mn (2+) + 4H2O

The left side of the equation would have a net charge of 7, as 8 hydrogen ions yield a charge of 8, plus -1 from permanganate. The right side would yield a charge of 2, with permanganate yielding 2 and the water molecules being neutral. So the charge decreases from 7 to 2, in other words, a gain of 5 electrons, making the balanced half reaction:

(5e-) + 8H+ + MnO4¯ ---> Mn (2+) + 4H2O

When applied to this:

(NO3-) -> NO
Balancing the oxygen:
(NO3-) -> NO + 2H2O
Balancing the hydrogen:
(4H+) + (NO3-) -> NO + 2H2O

The left side of the reaction has a net charge of 3, as 4 hydrogen ions yield a charge of +4, plus the -1 from nitrate. The right side is neutral, as the water molecules yield a charge of 0 and as oxygen in NO has a charge of -2, and 1x-2+unknown = 0 = 2, which cancel out to be 0. So the charge goes from 3 to 0, which means 3 electrons are gained:

(4H+) + (NO3-) + (3e-) -> NO + 2H2O

Is that correct?
 
computerex said:
(4H+) + (NO3-) + (3e-) -> NO + 2H2O

Is that correct?

That's OK. In your previous attempt charges were not balanced - you had +2 on the left, 0 on the right. Now it is zero on both sides.

Note that you don't need zero on both sides, you need identical charge on both sides. Could be 0 = 0, -2 = -2, +3 = +3 and so on. If it is not zero, you are just missing some spectators.
 
Borek said:
That's OK. In your previous attempt charges were not balanced - you had +2 on the left, 0 on the right. Now it is zero on both sides.

Ah yes, I realized that while I was re-doing the half reaction for nitrate. So factoring in the correct half reaction, I have this for the entire reaction. Can someone kindly confirm this?

3Ag + 4H + (NO3-) -> (3Ag+) + NO + 2H2O
 
OK
 

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