What is the Correct Tangent Angle for Calculating Force on a Cylinder?

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Homework Statement


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Calculate the force on the cilinder. You need the angle of the tangent and r.

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Down under here. The solution for the angle is 30°. But why does the formula I used did not work out?
My solution is 40,9°, why isn't this correct for this exercise?

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Dr. Courtney said:
I do not understand the problem statement. It does not look like English to me.
It is the native language of your 8th president :wink:
To the OP: It is polite (and, I believe, according to the rules here) to translate your question entirely.
 
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Bauxiet said:

Homework Statement


The solution for the angle is 30°. But why does the formula I used did not work out?
My solution is 40,9°, why isn't this correct for this exercise?
Why do you have a factor of ##\dot{\theta}## in the denominator?
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Krylov said:
It is the native language of your 8th president :wink:
To the OP: It is polite (and, I believe, according to the rules here) to translate your question entirely.

Sorry guys, I didn't want to be inpolite. This is the translation:

The cylinder C can only move in the slot. The movement is described by r = 0,6*cos(theta) m. The lever OA turns left (counter clockwise) with an angular speed of 2 rad/s and has a angular acceleration of 0,8 rad/s^2 at the moment when theta = 30°. What is the force on the cylinder C at that moment. The cylinder touches only one side of the slot (without friction). The movement is horizontal.

I was solving this question. And I needed the angle between the lever and the tangentline of the cylinder. The formula is on my paper. I needed this to find the angles for my forces. But the fomula seems not to be correct. What did or do I wrong? Thanks guys! And sorry again, i did not want to be inpolite!
 
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TSny said:
Why do you have a factor of ##\dot{\theta}## in the denominator?
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Just derivate of the term above. Chain rule for derivates...?
 
TSny said:
Why do you have a factor of ##\dot{\theta}## in the denominator?
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Just derivate of the term above. Chain rule for derivates...?

EDIT: Okay, this is my fault. The second term doesn't need to be there.

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I was confused because of the image above. I think that the derivate of above is dr/dt and that's why Theta has to be also be derived. (chain rule?). In this exercise it must be the derivate to theta and dsin(theta) /d(theta) = cos(theta). Because we have to derive to theta, when we apply the chainrule to theta, it is just a 1?

I think I got it, thank you guys very much!