What Is the Descriptive Meaning of \(- \frac{e}{c}\vec A\)?

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The discussion revolves around the descriptive meaning of the term \(- \frac{e}{c}\vec A\) in the context of modifying the Hamiltonian to account for electromagnetic fields. Participants explore its implications in theoretical physics, particularly in relation to momentum and energy in electromagnetic contexts.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the term \(- \frac{e}{c}\vec A\) represents a modification to the momentum due to the electromagnetic field, suggesting it can be viewed as momentum imparted through the electromagnetic force.
  • Another participant references the classical Hamiltonian and discusses the relationship between kinetic energy, potential energy, and the modification of momentum in the presence of an electromagnetic field.
  • A question is raised regarding the distinction between kinetic momentum (denoted as small type p) and canonical momentum (denoted as capital P), seeking clarification on their meanings.
  • A later reply confirms that capital P refers to the canonical momentum, which is described as the total momentum of the particle.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the descriptive meaning of the term \(- \frac{e}{c}\vec A\), and there are ongoing questions regarding the definitions of kinetic and canonical momentum.

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The discussion includes assumptions about the definitions of momentum and energy in electromagnetic fields, which may not be universally agreed upon or fully resolved.

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If you want to modify the Hamiltonian by introducing the effect of an electromagnetic field, then the replacement \vec p \rightarrow \vec p - \frac{e}{c}\vec A is applied.

Now my question is, whether there is a descriptive meaning of that extra term - \frac{e}{c}\vec A. As what can I think of that?
Thank you in advance
 
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One way to look at it is that it is the momentum imparted through the electromagnetic force,

Momentum wikipedia -
The classical Hamiltonian ℋ for a particle in any field equals the total energy of the system – the kinetic energy T = p2/2m (where p2 = p · p, see dot product) plus the potential energy V. For a particle in an electromagnetic field, the potential energy is V = , and since the kinetic energy T always corresponds to the kinetic momentum p, replacing the kinetic momentum by the above equation (p = PqA) leads to the Hamiltonian in the table.
 
say_cheese said:
For a particle in an electromagnetic field, the potential energy is V = , and since the kinetic energy T always corresponds to the kinetic momentum p, replacing the kinetic momentum by the above equation (p = PqA) leads to the Hamiltonian in the table.
If small type p is the kinetic momentum, what then is capital P?
 
Anton Alice said:
If small type p is the kinetic momentum, what then is capital P?
It's the canonical momentum, i.e., the total momentum of the particle.
 

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