What is the difference between first and second-order vacuum polarization?

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The discussion clarifies the distinction between first-order and second-order vacuum polarization in quantum electrodynamics (QED). The first-order vacuum polarization is represented by a one-loop Feynman diagram with two external photon lines, while the second-order involves light-by-light scattering, depicted by a diagram with four external photon lines. The conversation highlights the confusion surrounding terminology and the importance of accurate representation in scientific literature, such as Wikipedia. Ultimately, the second diagram does not represent vacuum polarization but rather a different scattering process.

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What is the difference for i.e vaccumpolarisation of the lowest order and vacuumpolarisation second order?
What determines the order of the vacuumpolarisation? I've added 2 Feynman Diagrams for refference. The first one shows the vacuumpolarisation of the lowest order the second shows the vacuumpolarisation of the 2nd order. What is the difference?

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Are you sure that the second diagram is a vacuum polarization diagram?
 
Gaussian97 said:
Are you sure that the second diagram is a vacuum polarization diagram?
Yup
 
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Well, it's not. It's light-by-light scattering.
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
Well, it's not. It's light-by-light scattering.
Yeah, but on Wikipedia the second pic is described by the words: Vacuumpolarisation second order
 
I defer to your expertise as an 11th grader, then.
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
I defer to your expertise as an 11th grader, then.
Nah, I am just madly confused haha. It is indeed Light by Light scattering, but why does it have that name given to it? Or how would a vacuumpolarisation second order look like?
 
raracon said:
Yeah, but on Wikipedia the second pic is described by the words: Vacuumpolarisation second order
Wikipedia has been known to be wrong. Just sayin’
 
What's called "vacuum polarization" is usually referring to the photon self-energy diagrams, i.e., Feynman diagrams with two external wiggly photon lines. So the one-loop 1st diagram is a vacuum-polarization diagram, the 2nd diagram has four external photon lines, and it describes the elastic scattering of photons. This is a process that's not included in classical electrodynamics, i.e., it is purely due to the radiative corrections of the quantized theory, QED. You can get a contribution to the vacuum polarization by connecting two of the external lines to an internal photon line. Another example is if you take the 1st one-loop diagram and draw a photon line connecting the two internal electron-positron lines. These are then two-loop contributions to the vacuum polarization of the photon.
 
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vanhees71 said:
he one-loop 1st diagram is a vacuum-polarization diagram
But a terrible example of one, as it has no measurable effects. Photon goes in, photon with the same kinematics comes out.
 
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Of course self-energy insertions to external legs have no observable consequences. That's the point of renormalization after all!
 

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