What is the general form of Powers of Polylogarithms?

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The discussion revolves around the general form of powers of polylogarithms, specifically focusing on integrals involving polylogarithmic functions. Participants explore various integral representations, generalizations, and relationships between different forms of polylogarithms, including their applications in series and sums.

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  • One participant proposes the general form of polylogarithm powers as $$L^m_n (a) = \int^1_0 x^{a-1} \mathrm{Li}_{\, n}(x)^m \, dx$$.
  • Another participant discusses the case where $$m=1$$ and provides a generalized integral $$\text{Li}_{p,q}(m, n; a, z)=\int_0^z x^{a-1} (\text{Li}_p(x))^m (\text{Li}_q(x))^n\,dx$$, along with specific examples of integrals involving polylogarithms.
  • A participant introduces an infinite sum $$\mathscr{C}(\alpha , k) =\sum_{n\geq 1}\frac{1}{n^{\alpha}(n+k)}$$ and derives a general formula for it, leading to further exploration of related sums and integrals.
  • There are references to a paper on arXiv that dealt with similar polylog integrals, suggesting a connection to Euler sums.
  • Participants express interest in finding general formulas for integrals involving products of polylogarithms, such as $$\int^1_0 \frac{\mathrm{Li}_n(x) \mathrm{Li}_m(x)}{x}\, dx$$.
  • One participant mentions a specific integral involving three consecutive polylogarithms, indicating a challenge in solving it.

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We should consider the general form

$$L^m_n (a) = \int^1_0 x^{a-1} \mathrm{Li}_{\, n}(x)^m \, dx$$​

This is NOT a tutorial , any attempts or comments are always welcomed.
 
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The case $$m=1$$ and $$a>0 \in \mathbb{R}$$ is fairly straightforward. Additionally, if we generalize your integral to$$\text{Li}_{p,q}(m, n; a, z)=\int_0^zx^{a-1} (\text{Li}_p(x))^m (\text{Li}_q(x))^n\,dx$$Then the special cases$$\text{Li}_{p,q}(1, 1; 0, z)=\int_0^z \frac{ \text{Li}_p(x) \text{Li}_q(x) }{x}\,dx$$

require nothing more than repeated integration by parts, provided $$p+q \in 2\mathbb{N}+1$$, since$$\frac{d}{dx} \text{Li}_p(x)=\frac{\text{Li}_{p-1}(x)}{x}$$So, for example, we have:$$(01) \quad \int_0^z \frac{ \text{Li}_1(x) \text{Li}_2(x) }{x}\,dx= \frac{1}{2} \text{Li}_2(z)^2$$

$$(02) \quad \int_0^z \frac{ \text{Li}_2(x) \text{Li}_3(x) }{x}\,dx= \frac{1}{2} \text{Li}_3(z)^2$$

$$(03) \quad \int_0^z \frac{ \text{Li}_3(x) \text{Li}_4(x) }{x}\,dx= \frac{1}{2}
\text{Li}_4(z)^2$$Integrating (02) by parts also gives:$$(04) \quad \int_0^z \frac{ \text{Li}_1(x) \text{Li}_4(x) }{x}\,dx= \text{Li}_2(z) \text{Li}_4(z) - \frac{1}{2} \text{Li}_3(z)^2$$Similarly, an integration by parts of (03) gives$$(05) \quad \int_0^z \frac{ \text{Li}_2(x) \text{Li}_5(x) }{x}\,dx= \text{Li}_3(z) \text{Li}_5(z) - \frac{1}{2} \text{Li}_4(z)^2$$as well as$$(06) \quad \int_0^z \frac{ \text{Li}_1(x) \text{Li}_6(x) }{x}\,dx= $$

$$\text{Li}_2(z) \text{Li}_6(z)- \text{Li}_3(z) \text{Li}_5(z) + \frac{1}{2} \text{Li}_4(z)^2$$
 
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Hey DW , thanks for your input (which I always wait for). I think the generalization you put is interesting to look at.

I was playing a little bit with these integrals and found interesting to look at the infinite sum

$$\mathscr{C}(\alpha , k) =\sum_{n\geq 1}\frac{1}{n^{\alpha}(n+k)}\,\,\, ; \,\,\,\,\mathscr{C}(1, k)=\frac{H_k}{k} $$

We can find a general formula to find the sum

\begin{align}
\mathscr{C}(\alpha , k) &=\sum_{n\geq 1}\frac{1}{k\, n^{\alpha-1}}\left( \frac{1}{n}-\frac{1}{n+k}\right)\\ &= \frac{1}{k}\zeta(\alpha)-\frac{1}{k}\mathscr{C}(\alpha-1 , k)\\ &= \frac{1}{k}\zeta(\alpha)-\frac{1}{k^2}\zeta(\alpha-1)+\frac{1}{k^2}\mathscr{C}(\alpha-2 , k)\\ &= \sum_{n=1}^{\alpha-1}(-1)^{n-1}\frac{\zeta(\alpha-n+1)}{k^n}+(-1)^{\alpha-1}\frac{H_k}{k^\alpha}
\end{align}

Hence we have the general formula

$$\mathscr{C}(\alpha , k) = \sum_{n=1}^{\alpha-1}(-1)^{n-1}\frac{\zeta(\alpha-n+1)}{k^n}+(-1)^{\alpha-1}\frac{H_k}{k^\alpha}$$

Dividing by $$\frac{1}{k^{\beta}}$$ and summing w.r.t to $k$ we have

$$\sum_{k\geq 1}\frac{\mathscr{C}(\alpha , k)}{k^{\beta}} = \sum_{n=1}^{\alpha-1}(-1)^{n-1}\zeta(\alpha-n+1)\zeta(\beta+n)+(-1)^{\alpha-1}\sum_{k\geq 1}\frac{H_k}{k^{\alpha+\beta}}$$

Now we use that

$$\sum_{n=1}^\infty \frac{H_n}{n^q}= \left(1+\frac{q}{2} \right)\zeta(q+1)-\frac{1}{2}\sum_{k=1}^{q-2}\zeta(k+1)\zeta(q-k)$$

Hence we have

$$\sum_{n=1}^\infty \frac{H_n}{n^{\alpha+\beta}}= \left(1+\frac{{\alpha+\beta}}{2} \right)\zeta({\alpha+\beta}+1)-\frac{1}{2}\sum_{k=1}^{{\alpha+\beta}-2}\zeta(k+1)\zeta({\alpha+\beta}-k)$$

And the generalization is the following formula

\begin{align}
\sum_{k\geq 1}\frac{\mathscr{C}(\alpha , k)}{k^{\beta}} &= \sum_{n=1}^{\alpha-1}(-1)^{n-1}\zeta(\alpha-n+1)\zeta(\beta+n) -\frac{1}{2}\sum_{n=1}^{{\alpha+\beta}-2}(-1)^{\alpha-1}\zeta(n+1)\zeta({\alpha+\beta}-n)\\ &+(-1)^{\alpha-1}\left(1+\frac{{\alpha+\beta}}{2} \right)\zeta({\alpha+\beta}+1)\end{align}

Interestingly we also have that

$$\sum_{k\geq 1}\frac{\mathscr{C}(\alpha , k)}{k^{\beta}}=\sum_{k\geq 1}\frac{\mathscr{C}(\beta, k)}{k^{\alpha}}$$

Generally we will use the symbol

$$\mathscr{H}(\alpha,\beta)=\sum_{k\geq 1}\frac{\mathscr{C}(\alpha , k)}{k^{\beta}}$$

So we have the symmetric property

$$\mathscr{H}(\alpha,\beta) = \mathscr{H}(\beta,\alpha)$$

$$\mathscr{H}(1,\beta)= \left(1+\frac{{\beta}}{2} \right)\zeta({\beta}+1)-\frac{1}{2}\sum_{k=1}^{{\beta}-2}\zeta(k+1)\zeta({\beta}-k)$$

Wasn't that fun , yes it was. I'll have to check my work because I might have some errors.
 
ZaidAlyafey said:
Hey DW , thanks for your input (which I always wait for). I think the generalization you put is interesting to look at.

Thanks Zaid! The feeling's mutual. Very much so. :D
ZaidAlyafey said:
Wasn't that fun , yes it was. I'll have to check my work because I might have some errors.
Certainly was... ;)Incidentally, I saw a paper some years ago on arXiv that dealt with Polylog Integrals of the exact same type as I posted above, but where $$p+q \in 2\mathbb{N}
$$Can't seem to find it now, but the author used Euler Sums to evaluate them (nudge, nudge, wink, wink... ;) )
 
DreamWeaver said:
Incidentally, I saw a paper some years ago on arXiv that dealt with Polylog Integrals of the exact same type as I posted above, but where $$p+q \in 2\mathbb{N}
$$Can't seem to find it now, but the author used Euler Sums to evaluate them (nudge, nudge, wink, wink... ;) )

Really , that would be interesting if you can find it. Generally, I can find a general formula for the integral

$$\int^1_0 \frac{\mathrm{Li}_n(x) \mathrm{Li}_m(x)}{x}\, dx $$

which is related to $$\mathscr{H}(\alpha ,\beta)$$. Will post that when I have time. Currently I read about the G-Barnes function which is really interesting to play with.
 
ZaidAlyafey said:
Really , that would be interesting if you can find it. Generally, I can find a general formula for the integral

$$\int^1_0 \frac{\mathrm{Li}_n(x) \mathrm{Li}_m(x)}{x}\, dx $$

which is related to $$\mathscr{H}(\alpha ,\beta)$$. Will post that when I have time. Currently I read about the G-Barnes function which is really interesting to play with.
I'll keep trying to find that old paper, and will let you know if I have any luck.Likewise, I look forward to your general solution to

$$\int^1_0 \frac{\mathrm{Li}_n(x) \mathrm{Li}_m(x)}{x}\, dx $$

as and when you have time. (Yes)
 
We find series and integral representations of $$\mathscr{H}(\alpha,\beta)$$

$$\mathscr{H}(p,q)=\sum_{k\geq 1}\frac{\mathscr{C}(p,k)}{k^{q}}= \sum_{k\geq 1}\sum_{n\geq 1}\frac{1}{k^{q}n^{p}(n+k)}$$

Also we have

$$\mathscr{H}(p,q)= \int^1_0 \frac{\mathrm{Li}_p(x)\,\, \mathrm{Li}_q(x)\, }{x}\, dx $$

So we have the following

\begin{align}
\mathscr{H}(p,q)=\int^1_0 \frac{\mathrm{Li}_p(x)\,\, \mathrm{Li}_q(x)\, }{x}\, dx&= \sum_{n=1}^{p-1}(-1)^{n-1}\zeta(p-n+1)\zeta(q+n) -\frac{1}{2}\sum_{n=1}^{{p+q}-2}(-1)^{p-1}\zeta(n+1)\zeta({p+q}-n)\\ &+(-1)^{p-1}\left(1+\frac{{p+q}}{2} \right)\zeta({p+q}+1)\end{align}

Now for the special case $$p=q$$ we have

\begin{align}
\mathscr{H}(q,q)=\int^1_0 \frac{ \mathrm{Li}_q(x) ^2 \, }{x}\, dx&= \sum_{n=1}^{q-1}(-1)^{n-1}\zeta(q-n+1)\zeta(q+n) -\frac{1}{2}\sum_{n=1}^{{2q}-2}(-1)^{q-1}\zeta(n+1)\zeta({2q}-n)\\ &+(-1)^{q-1}\left(1+q \right)\zeta(2q+1)\end{align}

We have for the special case $$q=2$$

$$\mathscr{H}(2,2)=\int^1_0 \frac{ \mathrm{Li}_2(x) ^2 \, }{x}\, dx=2\zeta(3)\zeta(2)-3\zeta(5)$$
 
An interesting form that I wasn't able to solve is the following

$$\int^1_0 \frac{\mathrm{Li}_{q-1}(x)\mathrm{Li}_{q}(x)\mathrm{Li}_{q+1}(x)}{x}\, dx \,\,\,\, q>1$$​

For simplicity we can consider

$$\int^1_0 \frac{\mathrm{Li}_{1}(x)\mathrm{Li}_{2}(x)\mathrm{Li}_{3}(x)}{x}\, dx $$​
 
Excellent work, Zaid! (Yes)
 
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Consider the following integral

$$ \int^1_0 \frac{\mathrm{Li}_{q-1}(x)\mathrm{Li}_{q}(x)\mathrm{Li}_{q+1}(x)}{x}\, dx $$

Integrating by parts we obtain

$$ \int^1_0 \frac{\mathrm{Li}_{q-1}(x)\mathrm{Li}_{q}(x)\mathrm{Li}_{q+1}(x)}{x}\, dx= \frac{\zeta(q+1)\zeta(q)^2}{2}-\frac{1}{2}\int^1_0 \frac{\mathrm{Li}_{q}(x)^3}{x}\, dx$$

Hence we have

$$\int^1_0\frac{\mathrm{Li}_{q}(x)^3}{x}\, dx = \zeta(q+1)\zeta(q)^2-2\int^1_0 \frac{\mathrm{Li}_{q-1}(x)\mathrm{Li}_{q}(x)\mathrm{Li}_{q+1}(x)}{x}\, dx$$

Integrating by parts again we obtain

$$\int^1_0 \frac{\mathrm{Li}_{q-1}(x)\mathrm{Li}_{q}(x)\mathrm{Li}_{q+1}(x)}{x}\, dx=\frac{\zeta(q-1)\zeta^2(q+1)}{2}-\frac{1}{2}\int^1_0 \frac{\mathrm{Li}_{q+1}(x)^2\mathrm{Li}_{q-2}(x)}{x}\, dx$$

So we have the following formula

$$\int^1_0\frac{\mathrm{Li}_{q}(x)^3-\mathrm{Li}_{q+1}(x)^2\mathrm{Li}_{q-2}(x)}{x}\, dx = \zeta(q+1)\zeta(q)^2-\zeta(q-1)\zeta^2(q+1)$$
 
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Hey , I found a paper by PEDRO FREITAS that exactly dealt with the form I had in mind namely the author discusses

$$J(m,p,q)= \int^1_0 x^m \mathrm{Li}_p(x) \mathrm{Li}_q(x) \, dx$$

The author gives a general formula for $$J(-1,p,q) =\mathscr{H}(p,q)$$ which is just like the formula I gave proof for but he uses a different method. He discusses many special cases for $$m=-2$$.

Here is a link for the paper.
 
  • #12
Thanks for the link, Zaid! (Hug)

I read that paper years ago, and have been trying to locate it again more recently. :D
 
  • #13
DreamWeaver said:
Thanks for the link, Zaid! (Hug)

I read that paper years ago, and have been trying to locate it again more recently. :D

Yup , very interesting . He treats a generalization of my results. I am glad I found it .
 

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