What is the Impact of Atiyah Abd al-Rahman's Death on Al Qaeda's Operations?

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The discussion centers on the implications of Atiyah Abd al-Rahman's death for Al Qaeda's operations, exploring various perspectives on the group's funding, its perceived threats, and geopolitical interests. Participants engage in a mix of commentary, speculation, and questioning regarding the nature of Al Qaeda's connections and the broader context of terrorism.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that Al Qaeda is primarily funded by China, drawing parallels to Cold War-era paranoia about the USSR.
  • Others question the rationale behind Chinese interests in supporting Al Qaeda, arguing that the group has sufficient funding from sources aligned with its worldview.
  • A participant humorously remarks on the frequency of Al Qaeda's second-in-command being killed, suggesting a lack of strategic focus on higher-ranking members.
  • There are claims that Al Qaeda is struggling to recruit new members due to significant losses, with a humorous mention of an unlikely recruitment target.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the relevance of historical links between Al Qaeda and China, questioning the validity of older sources of information.
  • Concerns are raised about the geopolitical implications of Chinese investments in Pakistan, particularly regarding oil access and regional stability.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the funding and operational status of Al Qaeda, with no clear consensus on the connections to China or the implications of recent events. The discussion remains unresolved with competing perspectives on the topic.

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Participants reference various sources and historical contexts, but there are limitations in the discussion regarding the current relevance of these claims and the assumptions underlying the arguments presented.

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http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5j4Gn_pnNpu49Zjn6ApN6SU7NCdPw?docId=654e051a9aac461f95fc903269af3a87"

By MATT APUZZO, Associated Press – 3 hours ago

WASHINGTON (AP) — U.S. and Pakistani officials said Saturday that al-Qaida's second-in-command, Atiyah Abd al-Rahman, has been killed in Pakistan, delivering another big blow to a terrorist group that the U.S. believes to be on the verge of defeat.

That is all.
 
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Just more swatting mosquitoes, al-qaida is a distraction mainly funded by the chinese.
 
Chronos said:
al-qaida is ... mainly funded by the chinese.

This has strong echoes of US paranoia about the USSR during the cold war. I'm interested to know what the evidence for this is? I'm not sure I understand why Chinese interests are served by the activities of Al Qaeda. It seems to me that Al Qaeda had sufficient funding sources among those more obviously aligned with their world view.
 
We've killed al qaeda's second in command so many times now that we're starting to run out of bullets. Why don't they leave that poor fellow alone and go after the third in command for a change?
 
Jimmy Snyder said:
We've killed al qaeda's second in command so many times now that we're starting to run out of bullets. Why don't they leave that poor fellow alone and go after the third in command for a change?

hmmm... bin Laden's code name was http://blogs.berkeley.edu/2011/05/02/bin-laden%E2%80%99s-code-name-was-%E2%80%98geronimo%E2%80%99/" .

Perhaps they should code name #2, as, Kenny?
 
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With the death of Bin Laden and numerous number twos, and with significant losses in Pakistan, Al Qaeda is getting desperate for new recruits. Homeland Security has released documents showing that Al Qaeda recently tried to recruit Jimmy Kennedy, who is widely known as the meanest 7th grader at Boston middle school.
 
OmCheeto said:
Perhaps they should code name #2, as, Kenny?

The kill time would have to be called "those bastards" instead of "inglorious".
 
Jimmy Snyder said:
We've killed al qaeda's second in command so many times now that we're starting to run out of bullets. Why don't they leave that poor fellow alone and go after the third in command for a change?

this ^

Ken Natton said:
This has strong echoes of US paranoia about the USSR during the cold war. I'm interested to know what the evidence for this is? I'm not sure I understand why Chinese interests are served by the activities of Al Qaeda. It seems to me that Al Qaeda had sufficient funding sources among those more obviously aligned with their world view.

i don't know about the funding al qaeda part (haven't tried to research it, but would be interested in any links), but their interests are the same as ours: controlling the oil.

something you don't hear so much about on MSNBC is that the chinese are building a port in Pakistan. to protect their oil access. notice they also want a pipeline.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303654804576339323765033308.html
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/05/27/chinas_port_in_pakistan

where is this oil coming from? places like iran, of course. and when we get afghanistan under our control, the TAPI pipeline bringing in petroleum from the Caspian Sea region.
http://www.ensec.org/index.php?opti...tid=103:energysecurityissuecontent&Itemid=358
 
Chronos said:
Just more swatting mosquitoes, al-qaida is a distraction mainly funded by the chinese.

The Chinese have their own problems with moslem Uighur terrorists. Some were captured at an al-qaeda training facility and were sent to Gitmo. When they were released they couldn't be deported to China for execution so we set them up in a restaurant business in Bermuda.

Is there any evidence of a Red China al-qaeda link?
 
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