What is the maximum profit and production level for this profit function?

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The problem involves modeling a profit function for an economist producing items, represented as a quadratic function P(x) = ax² + bx + c. The original poster is specifically struggling with determining the maximum profit and the production level needed to achieve it, based on given parameters and previous parts of the problem.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the use of differentiation to find maximum and minimum values of the profit function. There are questions about the meaning of the variable "t" and how it relates to the coefficients of the quadratic function. Some participants suggest using graphical methods to find the maximum profit, while others propose algebraic methods such as completing the square or using matrices.

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The discussion is active, with various methods being explored to address the problem. Some participants have found graphical solutions, while others are considering alternative approaches that do not rely on calculus. There is no explicit consensus on a single method, but multiple avenues for exploration are being discussed.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the original poster may not be currently learning calculus, which influences the suggested methods for solving the problem. There is also mention of homework constraints that may limit the approaches available to the original poster.

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Homework Statement


Note: This problem comprises many parts, but I will just skip to the last one, since it's the one I'm struggling to answer!

An economist producing x thousand items attempts to model a profit function as a quadratic model P(x) = ax²+bx+c thousand dollars.

Given info: a=t, b=3-5t, c=5+4t = possible solutions for the system

part c asks us to find the "actual profit function" when the profit for producing 2500 items is 19,750 dollars (Note: 19750 becomes 19.75 when we plug into the function)...

Then part d asks us what is the max profit to be made and what level of production is needed to achieve it?

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The Attempt at a Solution



After substitution, the function for part c is as follows:
p(x)= (-29/9)x²+(172/9)x-(71/9) thousand dollars
such that 19.75= (-29/9)x²+(172/9)x-(71/9) thousand dollars
I'm guessing we have to use this formula to answer part d...I have solved x, where, in this case, x=0.44 or 5.48
Yet, I don't think these x-values will help me solve part d?!
 
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Have you learned how to use differentiation to find the max and min of a function? BTW, what is "t"?
 
a=t=(-29/9)...hmm we have done some calculus...but we haven't applied it yet to functions in math. In physics, I have applied calculus when dealing with acceleration and velocity. I'm assuming it's the same idea.
 
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L²Cc said:
a=t=(-29/9)...hmm we have done some calculus...but we haven't applied it yet to functions in math. In physics, I have applied calculus when dealing with acceleration and velocity. I'm assuming it's the same idea.

The derivative of a function is the slope of the function at each point. So for example, if y = -2x^2, then dy/dx = -4x. So if you plot y(x) and dy/dx, you will see that the function y(x) is an upside-down parabola centered on the origin, and the slope function dy/dx is positive for -x and negative for +x, and it is zero at the origin where the function is maximum.

So the general technique for finding maxima and minima of a function is to take the deriviate of the function and set that equal to zero. Solving that equation gives you all the values of x where the function has a max or min. You then either have to plot the function to see if it's a max or min, or else take the second derivative to see if the funtion has positive curvature (like a cup shape) or negative curvature (like an umbrella shape) at each max/min. Make sense?
 
This part is rather confusing "So if you plot y(x) and dy/dx, you will see that the function y(x) is an upside-down parabola centered on the origin, and the slope function dy/dx is positive for -x and negative for +x, and it is zero at the origin where the function is maximum"
But I understood the rest!
Based on your comment, I can simply graph the quadratic equation (0= (-29/9)x²+(172/9)x-(995/36)) then find the coordinates of the peak which represent the max. profit. I plug in the values which will enable me to find the max. profit! Using differentiation, the equation will be: (-58/9)x+(172/9)...right?
 
Thank you I found the answer graphically, where the number of products equals about 2970 and max. profit= 20,448 dollars. But can you please elaborate on the differentation concept?
 
L²Cc said:
Thank you I found the answer graphically, where the number of products equals about 2970 and max. profit= 20,448 dollars. But can you please elaborate on the differentation concept?

Sure. Check out "Using Derivitaves to Graph Functions" at this wikipedia.org page.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derivative
 
L²Cc said:
Using differentiation, the equation will be: (-58/9)x+(172/9)...right?

Looks like the number you got graphically also. Good job.
 
While calculus is a good tool for solving this; it seems as if he's not learning Calculus at the moment. Rather, Algebra or Pre-Calculus.

Thus, we must use matrices and other forms to solve the answer =).

One way I'm thinking is to set it up in a matrix and then row reference to solve for the variables.

There's also another way in which you plot two graphs and the intersection of these two graphs produces the maximums =).
 
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AngeloG said:
While calculus is a good tool for solving this; it seems as if he's not learning Calculus at the moment. Rather, Algebra or Pre-Calculus.

Thus, we must use matrices and other forms to solve the answer =).

One way I'm thinking is to set it up in a matrix and then row reference to solve for the variables.

There's also another way in which you plot two graphs and the intersection of these two graphs produces the maximums =).

I'm not familiar with those methods. Can you provide an example or a web pointer? I'd be interested in seeing how they work.
 
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The simplest way, especially if youre not familliar with calc, is to find the axis of symmetry and plug that into get the y coordinate of the vertex. The calc comes in handy for higher degree polynomials
 
  • #12
Since the question in question is a parbola, you don't need to use calculus: complete the square to find the vertex of the parabola.
 

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