What Is the Maximum Value of \( x \) in the Equation \( 2x+y+\frac{4}{xy}=10 \)?

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Here is this week's POTW:

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If the positive real numbers $x$ and $y$ satisfy the equation $2x+y+\dfrac{4}{xy}=10$, find the maximum possible value of $x$.

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No one answered last POTW correctly. Participants can refer to the suggested solution below:

From the given equation, we rewrite it to get

$5-x=\dfrac{y}{2}+\dfrac{2}{xy}>0$ and this implies $x<5$.

Squaring both sides we get

$(5-x)^2=\dfrac{y^2}{4}+\dfrac{2}{a}+\dfrac{4}{x^2y^2}=\dfrac{4}{a}+\left(\dfrac{y}{2}-\dfrac{2}{xy}\right)^2\ge\dfrac{4}{x}$

And so $x(x-5)^2\ge 4$, this translates to $(x-4)(x^2-6x+1)\ge 0$, which, considering $x<5$, implies $x\le 4$.
 
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Are we still allowed to post an answer for an old POTW?
 
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bob012345 said:
Are we still allowed to post an answer for an old POTW?
Of course! I don't see why not, and as a matter of fact, thanks for showing interest in the old POTW!
 
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Solve for ##y##:
We get ##y^2 + 2(x-5)y + \dfrac{4}{x}=0##
## y = 5-x \pm \sqrt{(x-5)^2- \dfrac{4}{x}}##
Now we study the discriminant ##d(x) = (x-5)^2- \dfrac{4}{x}##
We have one root ##x=4##, we then set ##d(x) = 0## and multiply both sides with ##x##:
## 0 = x^3-10x^2+25x - 4 ##
This third degree polynomial has ##x=4## as root, the other two roots we find by polymomial long-division:
## (x^3-10x^2+25x - 4)/(x-4) = x^2 - 6x+1 ##
Roots of ## x^2 - 6x+1 ## are ##3-2\sqrt{2}## and ##3+2\sqrt{2}##.
Sketch of the discriminant ##d(x) = (x-5)^2- \dfrac{4}{x}## which we did using a sign-table:
1660929601075.png

Thus in the discriminant, we must have ##3-2\sqrt{2} \leq x \leq 4## or ##x \geq 3+2\sqrt{2}##.
But since ##x \geq 3+2\sqrt{2} > 5## and ## y = 5-x \pm \sqrt{(x-5)^2- \dfrac{4}{x}}## this gives negative ##y##.
Therefore, we must have that ##3-2\sqrt{2} \leq x \leq 4##.

Answer: the largest ##x## value is 4.
 
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Here is my solution and a plot of the equation. I got the same range for ##x## as @malawi_glenn.

Here is my plot of the original equation formatted as ##y= f(x)##, actually the sum of two solutions of the quadratic solution for ##y## and a function of ##x##.

$$ 2x + y + \frac{4}{xy} =10$$
$$ y = \left( \frac{1}{2}\left(10 - 2x\right) +\frac{1}{2} \sqrt{(10-2x)^2 -\frac{16}{x} } \large \right)$$

$$ y = \left( \frac{1}{2}\left(10 - 2x\right) -\frac{1}{2} \sqrt{(10-2x)^2 -\frac{16}{x} } \large \right)$$
The green areas are where ##y## becomes a complex number and purple areas where ##y## is negative.

You can see the range of ##y## is exactly twice the range of ##x## as can be surmised from the symmetry of the equation.

desmos-graph (20) copy.png
 
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Another solution:

Multiply through by ##xy## and we have:
$$2x^2y + xy^2 + 4 - 10xy = 0$$Fix ##x## and let the left-hand side be ##f(y)##.$$f'(y) = 2x^2 + 2xy - 10x = 2x(x + y - 5)$$And ##f(y)## has a minimum at ##y = 5 - x##, where $$f_{min} = 2x^2(5-x) + x(5-x)^2 - 10x(5-x) + 4$$$$ = -x^3 + 10x^2 - 25x + 4 = -(x-4)(x^2 - 6x + 1)$$If ##f_{min} > 0##, then there is no solution for ##y## for that ##x##. We already have an obvious constraint from the original equation that ##x < 5##, so we need ##3 - 2\sqrt 2 \le x \le 4##. And we can check that ##x = 4, y = 1## is indeed a solution.

Alternatively, having noticed that ##x = 4, y = 1## is a solution and ##x < 5## we can see that ##f_{min} > 0## for ##4 < x < 5##. Hence, there are no solutions for ##x > 4##.
 
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