What is the meaning of canonical in quantum mechanics?

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The discussion centers around the meaning of "canonical" in the context of quantum mechanics, specifically regarding canonical variables and canonical momentum, and how these concepts differ from regular momentum. The scope includes theoretical explanations and clarifications of terminology used in quantum mechanics.

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  • One participant seeks clarification on the definitions of canonical variables and canonical momentum, questioning how they differ from regular momentum.
  • Another participant provides a definition, stating that canonical variables are those whose Poisson Bracket or Commutator yields a delta function, suggesting a relationship between symmetries and conservation laws.
  • A further response refines this definition by discussing the canonical variables in the context of single particle quantum mechanics in an electromagnetic field, noting that both canonical momentum and mechanical momentum satisfy canonical commutation relations, despite only the former being labeled as "canonical."
  • One participant links to an external resource for additional context on canonical variables.

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Participants express differing views on the definition and implications of canonical variables and momentum, with no consensus reached on the nuances of these concepts.

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Some assumptions about the definitions of canonical and mechanical momentum may not be fully explored, and the discussion does not resolve the complexities surrounding these terms.

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what does it mean in quantum mechanics when they say canonical variables or canonical momentum? what is the difference from regular momentum?
 
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Read the bottom of this page under physics:

http://www.answers.com/canonical&r=67

To paraphrase: Any two variables whose Poisson Bracket (or Commutator in Quantum) that give a delta are canonical. A symmetry in one canonical variable implies the other is conserved. For example, translational invariance and conservation of momentum.

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Norman said:
...To paraphrase: Any two variables whose Poisson Bracket (or Commutator in Quantum) that give a delta are canonical.

Not exactly. For example, in single particle quantum mechanics in the presence of an external electromagnetic field the canonical variables are the position [tex]\vec x[/tex] and the *canonical* momentum [tex]\vec p[/tex] which satisfy:
[tex] [x_j,p_k]=i\hbar\delta_{jk}\;.[/tex]

But, if the above holds, it should also be obvious that the *mechanical* momentum [tex]\vec \pi =\vec p-e\vec A[/tex] where [tex]e[/tex] is the charge also satisfies:
[tex] [x_j,\pi_k]=i\hbar\delta_{jk}\;.[/tex]

Thus, both sets of variables satisfy canonical communtation relations even though only the set (x,p) are called "canonical variables."
 
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