What is the meaning of 'Hapless'?

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The discussion centers on the term "hapless," which some participants initially believed meant "incompetent," but the dictionary defines it as "unlucky." The conversation explores the nuances of the word, with one participant suggesting it describes someone in a difficult situation through no fault of their own, emphasizing a distinction from incompetence. There is also a reflection on the potential for misunderstanding other word definitions, with references to Yiddish terms like "schlemiel" and "schlimazel," which further illustrate the complexity of describing misfortune. The etymology of "hap" is noted, linking it to good luck, which reinforces the idea that "hapless" relates to being ill-fated rather than incompetent. Overall, the discussion highlights the layered meanings of words and the importance of context in understanding them.
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I always thought it meant "incompetent," but the dictionary says "unlucky." Huh. I now say that hapless is used as a euphemism for incompetence.
 
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Hornbein said:
I always thought it meant "incompetent," but the dictionary says "unlucky." Huh. I now say that hapless is used as a euphemism for incompetence.
Definitely not incompetent. I would use it in the context of someone who is, by no fault of their own, in a difficult position; subject to the whims of fate; for whom things seem to turn out for the worse.
 
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I'm outvoted.

I wonder how many other words I have the wrong definitions for? (Not counting words that have hotly debated controversial definitions. That will never end.) I'm not going to look up every word I know in the dictionary.
 
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I still think it is closer to "schlemiel" than to "schlimazel" but I'll just stick to the Yiddish. (Its my Scots-Irish roots.) Why look elsewhere?
 
hutchphd said:
but I'll just stick to the Yiddish. (Its my Scots-Irish roots.)
As my distant ancestor, Angus McGoldstein would say....
 
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Hornbein said:
I wonder how many other words I have the wrong definitions for?

I'm not sure you're wrong; I'd say you have a subset of the word use.

Finding oneself inexplicably lost in a foreign country with no money, contacts or shelter could describe a hapless fella who got there either by no fault of his own or by fault of his own.
 
I would say that the hapless, would be innocent or helpless, and would be suffering from more than one small misfortune.
 
Vanadium 50 said:
As my distant ancestor, Angus McGoldstein would say....
Ah , Uncle Angus.....I do love the number of descriptors of (often deficient) humans that are availible in Yiddish. A sclemiel is hopeless a schlemazel hapless and we could all use a few more good mensch.
 
DaveC426913 said:
I'm not sure you're wrong; I'd say you have a subset of the word use.

Finding oneself inexplicably lost in a foreign country with no money, contacts or shelter could describe a hapless fella who got there either by no fault of his own or by fault of his own.
Apparanetly hap is an old Norse word for good luck. The original meaning, therefore, is ill-starred or ill-fated.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hapless
 
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"Hap" is good luck. Think "happenstance" or even "happy."
 

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