What Is the Origin of the Singlet State in Quantum Mechanics?

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The discussion revolves around the origin and understanding of the singlet state in quantum mechanics, particularly in the context of spin-1/2 particles. Participants explore theoretical concepts, mathematical formulations, and seek clarifications on the nature of singlet states.

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  • One participant expresses confusion about the introduction of the singlet state in "Quantum Mechanics, The Theoretical Minimum" and requests an explanation of its origin.
  • Another participant describes a singlet state as a state unaffected by symmetry operations, providing examples such as spin-0 particles and uncharged particles.
  • A participant seeks clarification on the phrase "with regard to specific symmetry," prompting further discussion about the abstract nature of singlet states.
  • One participant suggests looking into "spontaneous parametric down conversion" as a potential avenue for understanding, although another counters that this topic is more complex and not directly related to the singlet state.
  • A detailed mathematical explanation is provided regarding the addition of angular momenta, including the eigenvalue problem of the total-spin operator and the resulting states for total spin 0 (singlet) and total spin 1 (triplet).
  • Another participant attempts to simplify the explanation by discussing the combination of spins in a two-particle system and the conditions under which they form a singlet state.

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The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple competing views on the nature and explanation of the singlet state. Participants express varying levels of understanding and seek further clarification on specific aspects.

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Some participants note the abstract mathematical nature of the singlet state, which may depend on specific definitions and assumptions that are not fully articulated in the discussion.

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I'm currently reading "Quantum Mechanics, The Theoretical Minimum" and on page 166 the singlet state is introduced. However there is no explanation as to where this comes from and appears to be plucked from thin air. I had a look at a previous PF thread https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/how-do-i-get-the-singlet-state.67769/ however I'm a complete novice when it comes to QM and this is slightly beyond my knowledge. I would be very greatful is someone could possibly explain this to me either fully or partially.

Many thanks :)
 
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A very general statement would be that a singlet (with regard to specific symmetry) is a state that is not affected by operations (that keep the symmetry)
it is like a scaler.
A good examples are:
1) spin-0 particles are singlets with regards to rotations
2) uncharged particles are singlets with regards to the em field (u(1) internal symmetry)
 
ohad said:
A very general statement would be that a singlet (with regard to specific symmetry) is a state that is not affected by operations (that keep the symmetry)
it is like a scaler.
A good examples are:
1) spin-0 particles are singlets with regards to rotations
2) uncharged particles are singlets with regards to the em field (u(1) internal symmetry)
Thank you for your reply :) what do you mean by "with regard to specific symmetry"? :)

Many thanks
 
Physgeek64 said:
what do you mean by "with regard to specific symmetry"? :)

in the example of spin-0 - rotations, the symmetry is rotation.
singlet is relative abstract mathematical notion, so the answers will be usually abstruct.
 
Physgeek64 said:
I'm currently reading "Quantum Mechanics, The Theoretical Minimum" and on page 166 the singlet state is introduced. However there is no explanation as to where this comes from and appears to be plucked from thin air. I had a look at a previous PF thread https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/how-do-i-get-the-singlet-state.67769/ however I'm a complete novice when it comes to QM and this is slightly beyond my knowledge. I would be very greatful is someone could possibly explain this to me either fully or partially.

Many thanks :)
Google "spontaneous parametric down conversion" and select whatever option tickles your fancy.
 
This is about the addition of angular momenta and not about "parametric downconversion", which is way more complicated. The mathematical question is that after the eigenvalue problem of the total-spin operator which is a sum of two independent spins. You have to get familiar with the tensor product of Hilbert spaces (in this case the somewhat simpler case of finite-dimensional Hilbert spaces) and how to solve the eigenvalue problem of angular-momentum operators (in this case simplifying to the eigenvalue problem of finite-dimensional hermitean matrices).

As will turn out in your case, adding two spins 1/2, the sum contains vectors of total spin 0 (singlet) and total spin 1 (triplet), and the basis of eigenvectors is

for total spin 1:
$$|S=1,\Sigma_z=1 \rangle=|s_1=1/2,\sigma_z^{(1)}=1/2;s_2=1/2,\sigma_z^{(2)}=1/2 \rangle,$$
$$|S=1,\Sigma_z=0 \rangle=\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} (|s_1=1/2,\sigma_z^{(1)}=1/2;s_2=1/2,\sigma_z^{(2)}=-1/2 \rangle + |s_1=1/2,\sigma_z^{(1)}=-1/2;s_2=1/2,\sigma_z^{(2)}=1/2 \rangle),$$
$$|S=1,\Sigma=-1 \rangle = |s_1=1/2,\sigma_z^{(1)}=-1/2;s_2=1/2,\sigma_z^{(2)=-1/2}.$$

for total spin 0:
$$|S=0,\Sigma_z=0 \rangle = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} (|s_1=1/2,\sigma_z^{(1)}=1/2;s_2=1/2,\sigma_z^{(2)}=-1/2 \rangle - |s_1=1/2,\sigma_z^{(1)}=-1/2;s_2=1/2,\sigma_z^{(2)}=1/2 \rangle).$$
 
Physgeek64 said:
I'm currently reading "Quantum Mechanics, The Theoretical Minimum" and on page 166 the singlet state is introduced. However there is no explanation as to where this comes from and appears to be plucked from thin air. I had a look at a previous PF thread https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/how-do-i-get-the-singlet-state.67769/ however I'm a complete novice when it comes to QM and this is slightly beyond my knowledge. I would be very greatful is someone could possibly explain this to me either fully or partially.

Many thanks :)

Perhaps a simpler explanation. If you have two spin-1/2 particles, then together they form a two-particle system, where the spins can either add (which roughly means they are spinning in the same direction) or cancel (which roughly means they are spinning in opposite directions). So, the total spin of the system is either 0 or 1.

In any case, if you measure the total spin of the two-particle system you will get either 0 or 1.

If you get 0, then the particles are said to be in the singlet state. The reason it is called singlet is that there is only one combination of the two spin-1/2 particles that gives a total spin of 0.

By contrast, the triplet state corresponds to a total spin of 1, and there are three linear combinations of the individual spins that give a total spin of 1.
 
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