What is the point of geometric quantization?

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The discussion revolves around the significance and applications of geometric quantization, particularly in the context of quantum-classical hybrid systems and its relevance beyond mathematical theory. Participants explore its implications for understanding quantization, integrable quantum systems, and unitary representations of groups.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses interest in geometric quantization but questions its practical importance outside its mathematical framework, particularly in relation to particles constrained to move on surfaces.
  • Another participant suggests that geometric quantization is important for understanding quantization in general, integrable quantum systems, and constructing irreducible unitary representations of groups.
  • A participant challenges the convincingness of the claim regarding geometric quantization's ability to reproduce quantum mechanics for particles on surfaces and asks for testable results that differ from standard quantum mechanics.
  • References to various materials on group representation and geometric quantization are provided by participants, indicating a search for deeper understanding.
  • Woodhouse's work is mentioned as a standard reference on geometric quantization, noted for its clarity.

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Participants express differing views on the practical applications and significance of geometric quantization. While some highlight its importance in theoretical contexts, others remain skeptical about its utility in producing novel results in quantum mechanics.

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Participants note the distinction between understanding and reproducing quantum mechanics, indicating that the discussion may hinge on the definitions and interpretations of geometric quantization and its applications.

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I studied the basics of geometric quantization for a recent work in quantum-classical hybrid systems1. It was an easy application of the method of gometric quantization (prequantization + polarization in ##\mathbb{R}^{3}##).
The whole topic seems interesting since I want to learn more of symplectic geometry, but (outside the aforementioned half-quantization to get a quantum-classical theory) I fail to see the point of the whole endeavor. For example, particles constrained to move on a surface are treated with the formalism of the geometric potential of Jensen, Koppe, and Da Costa2 , and not from a quantization of the related classical situation.

What actual result from geometric quantization is important and useful outside the mathematical dicipline of geometric quantization itself?[1]https://arxiv.org/abs/2107.03623
[2]https://arxiv.org/abs/1602.00528
 
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andresB said:
What actual result from geometric quantization is important and useful outside the mathematical dicipline of geometric quantization itself?
It is important for the understanding of quantization in general, for integrable quantum systems and for the construction of irreducible unitary representations of groups.
 
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A. Neumaier said:
It is important for the understanding of quantization in general, for integrable quantum systems and for the construction of irreducible unitary representations of groups.

Well, the first part does not sound convincing. Does geometric quantization reproduces the quantum mechanic of a partice constrained to move on a surface embbeded in ##\mathbb{R}^{3}##?
Does it produce testable results that can't be obtained just by using the usual tools of QM?The unitary representation of groups does sound interesting. My work was about the Galilei Group in classical and "half"-quantized systems. Any good reference on group representation and geometric quantization?
 
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andresB said:
Does geometric quantization reproduces the quantum mechanic of a partice constrained to move on a surface
Understanding and reproducing details are very different issues.
andresB said:
Any good reference on group representation and geometric quantization?
https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-662-06791-8_2
https://arxiv.org/pdf/math-ph/0208008.pdf
https://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/QM/qmbook.pdf
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1801.02307.pdf
https://link-springer-com.uaccess.univie.ac.at/content/pdf/10.1007/BF02097053.pdf
https://s3.cern.ch/inspire-prod-files-6/6869199e89f197300faf2f93e55dc112
 
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Woodhouse is the standard reference on Geometric Quantization and quite well written.
 

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