What is the probability of a person born in leap year

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The discussion revolves around the probability of a person being born in a leap year, exploring different interpretations and calculations related to this probability. Participants engage in both theoretical and practical considerations, examining various models and assumptions.

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  • Some participants suggest the probability is slightly more than 1/4.
  • Others argue it is slightly less than 1/4, citing the rules of the Gregorian Calendar affecting leap years.
  • A participant calculates the probability based on the number of leap years in a 400-year cycle, arriving at 97/400 or 0.2425.
  • Another participant emphasizes the distinction between the probability of a randomly chosen year being a leap year versus a randomly chosen day, calculating the latter as approximately 0.243003.
  • One participant proposes that to determine the probability of a randomly selected person being born in a leap year, one would need to tally the number of people born in leap years against the total population.
  • Another calculation suggests using an average year length of 365.2425 days, leading to a probability of approximately 0.2432.
  • A different approach calculates the probability based on the number of favorable days in a 4-year cycle, yielding approximately 0.2505.
  • Some participants question the utility of simplified models when more accurate models are available.

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Participants express differing views on the probability of being born in a leap year, with no consensus reached. Multiple competing models and calculations are presented, reflecting the complexity of the topic.

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Discussions include various assumptions about year lengths and the definitions of leap years, which may affect the calculations presented. The differences in approaches highlight the nuances in determining probabilities based on different criteria.

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what is the probability of a person born in leap year
 
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Slightly more than 1/4.
 
can u pllz explain me

mathman said:
Slightly more than 1/4.
 
I'm afraid I'm going to have to disagree with mathman. It is slightly less than 1/4. The answer is not exactly 1/4 because, in the Gregorian Calendar (as opposed to the Julian Calendar) every year which is divisible by 100 but not divisible by 400 is not a leap year. The year 1900, even though it is divisible by 4 was not a leap year, but the year 2000, which was divisible by 400 is not. If a leap year came every 4 years, then in 400 years, there would be 100 leap years. If any year divisible by 100 were not a leap year, that would reduce it to 100- 4= 96. Because the 400th year is divisible by 400, we put that back in: there are 97 leap years in 400 years. I think those are the only conditions. If so, the probability that an arbitrarily chosen year is a leap year is 97/400= 0.2425.
 
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The problem is not that an arbitrarily chosen year is a leap year. It is that an arbitrarily chosen point in time is a leap year. While 97/400 years are leap years, a leap year has one extra day than a normal year. In a 400 year period, 97*366=35502 days will be in a leap year while 303*365=110595 days will be in a non-leap year. The probability that an arbitrarily chosen day occurs in a leap year is thus 35502/(35502+110595) = 0.243003.
 
Very good point.
 
Are we talking about if you randomly pick a person off the street, what is the probability of them being born in a leap year? If that's what you want, then the only real way to be 100% sure of the probability is to tally each person on the planet with the year they're born. Then the probability of a person being born in a leap year is the number of people born in a leap year divided by the total number of people. So, yeah, it's probably easier to assume a randomly picked day is in a leap year or not.
 
Since 2000 was a leap year, the probability that anyone alive today was born in a leap year is slightly over 1/4.
 
We shoul calculate for all the time, not for any period of time. As I know, an average year's lengh for all time is 365.2425 days. An ordinary year consists of 365 days, a leap has 366.
Now let n the the number of ordinary years corresponding to one leap year. We have the following equation:

n*(365)+366 = (n+1)365.2425.

n is calculated as 3.1237
So the probability of being born in leap year is
P = 1/(n+1) = 1/(3.1237+1) = 0.2425 (strange?)

Correction:

P should be : 1*366/(n+1)365 = 0.2432
 
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Probability can be thought of
\frac{\mbox{ favorable outcomes }}{\mbox{ possible outcomes }}

In exactly 4 years there are: 366 favorable days and 1461 possible days (365+365+365+365+366)

To the probability is:
\frac{366}{1461} \approx .25051334


Note: Yes, I know leap years change every hundreds of years but I am not assuming that. I am doing it with an easy model.
 
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What's the point of using a simple model when the full, exact model is no more complex?
 
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In order to get an incorrect answer, of course!
 

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