What is the Probability of the Rapture Happening in Our Lifetime?

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The discussion revolves around the probability of the rapture occurring within the current generation, as introduced by the Apostle Paul in the New Testament. Participants explore the implications of defining "in our lifetime" and the assumptions necessary to set up a probability equation for this event.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that if the rapture is considered imminent, it raises questions about the timeframe of "in our lifetime" and the potential cutoff for humanity's existence.
  • One participant proposes a model where the probability of the rapture occurring halves with each successive lifetime, estimating a probability of about $2^{-28}$ based on 28 lifetimes since Paul's time.
  • Another participant reiterates the halving model, suggesting that if the initial probability was 0.5, the cumulative probability over 28 lifetimes leads to a similar conclusion of $2^{-28}$.
  • There is acknowledgment of the uncertainty surrounding the assumptions made in these calculations, particularly regarding the definition of the rapture and the lifespan of humanity.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the assumptions required to calculate the probability of the rapture, with no consensus reached on the validity of the proposed models or the underlying assumptions.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations related to the assumptions about the nature of the rapture, the definition of a lifetime, and the unknowns regarding humanity's future existence.

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In the New Testament, the Apostle Paul introduced an event that has come to be known as the rapture of the church. The rapture is an imminent event, which means it could happen at any moment in time. What is the probability that the rapture of the church will take place in our lifetime?

Set up a probability equation for this problem.

Let P = probability
 
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If we assume that what Paul said is true, then we need to know what period of time is meant by "in our lifetime," and we need to know how some cutoff time in which if this event has not already occurred, it will not occur after, that is perhaps, how long will humanity exist, assuming humans are the only species in the universe under consideration for rapture. There are simply too many unknowns here to give a reasonable answer. :D
 
A well-thought reply.
 
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RTCNTC said:
In the New Testament, the Apostle Paul introduced an event that has come to be known as the rapture of the church. The rapture is an imminent event, which means it could happen at any moment in time. What is the probability that the rapture of the church will take place in our lifetime?

Set up a probability equation for this problem.

Let P = probability
Thank you for that thought-provoking, intellectually invigorating question.
 
RTCNTC said:
In the New Testament, the Apostle Paul introduced an event that has come to be known as the rapture of the church. The rapture is an imminent event, which means it could happen at any moment in time. What is the probability that the rapture of the church will take place in our lifetime?

Set up a probability equation for this problem.

Let P = probability
The Apostle apparently thought that this rapture was imminent. Perhaps he thought there was a 0.5 chance that it would happen in his lifetime. If not, maybe the chance would continue to halve in each successive lifetime. Using the biblical definition of 70 years for a lifetime, there have been about 28 lifetimes since Paul's day. That gives the probability of a rapture during our lifetime as about $2^{-28}$, or roughly $0.000000004.$
 
Opalg said:
The Apostle apparently thought that this rapture was imminent. Perhaps he thought there was a 0.5 chance that it would happen in his lifetime. If not, maybe the chance would continue to halve in each successive lifetime. Using the biblical definition of 70 years for a lifetime, there have been about 28 lifetimes since Paul's day. That gives the probability of a rapture during our lifetime as about $2^{-28}$, or roughly $0.000000004.$

Assuming that the chance in Paul's life time was indeed $0.5$, and assuming that in each successive life time it was again $0.5$.
Then the chance that it didn't happen for 28 life times is $2^{-28}$.
Assuming that our assumptions are correct, that would mean that the chance that rapture (whatever that means) happens in our life time is $0.5$.
 
Thank you very much.
 

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