What is the Purpose of Black Holes?

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The discussion revolves around the philosophical question of the purpose of black holes, exploring whether they have any inherent purpose or significance in the universe. Participants engage in a mix of philosophical reasoning and scientific perspectives, with some questioning the relevance of purpose in scientific discourse.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that black holes might serve a purpose, such as creating another universe or balancing mass distribution.
  • Others argue that the notion of inherent purpose in astronomical objects is absurd and not applicable to scientific inquiry.
  • One participant humorously suggests that the purpose of black holes is to generate discussion about them.
  • There is a contention regarding the necessity of a purpose, with some asserting that positing a purpose implies the existence of an intelligent creator, which is deemed irrelevant in scientific contexts.
  • Another participant points out that asking "why" something exists leads to philosophical rather than scientific questions, citing the limitations of scientific reasoning in addressing such inquiries.
  • One participant emphasizes that the conversation is unscientific and questions the relevance of discussing purpose in relation to black holes.

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Participants generally disagree on the relevance and existence of purpose in relation to black holes, with multiple competing views presented throughout the discussion. The conversation remains unresolved, with differing opinions on the philosophical implications of purpose.

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Limitations include the philosophical nature of the questions posed, which may not align with scientific methodologies. The discussion reflects a blend of scientific reasoning and philosophical inquiry, leading to unresolved tensions between the two approaches.

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A little philosophical question.

What would you say is the purpose of a black hole? To create another universe? To somehow balance the distribution of mass? Any guesses or hunches? Just curious.
 
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The idea that black holes (or any other sort of astronomical object) would have some kind of inherent purpose that we can identify seems absurd to me.
 
the purpose of a black hole is to get itself talked about :frown:

if we ignore them, they won't bother us :smile:​
 
nicksauce said:
The idea that black holes (or any other sort of astronomical object) would have some kind of inherent purpose that we can identify seems absurd to me.
Why?
 
tiny-tim said:
the purpose of a black hole is to get itself talked about :frown:

if we ignore them, they won't bother us :smile:​
This is unfortunate. I don't want to ignore them.
 
Willowz said:
Why?

Why should it have a purpose?
 
For something to have a purpose posits the existence of an intelligent "creator". In this reasoning it would be a God, which holds no value in scientific research.
 
Pengwuino said:
Why should it have a purpose?
Because it exists.
 
Kevin_Axion said:
For something to have a purpose posits the existence of an intelligent "creator". In this reasoning it would be a God, which holds no value in scientific research.
No, none of that. Please.
 
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What do you mean? My reasoning isn't flawed, in fact, it completely negates your point, ultimately making it an unscientific idea.
 
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Kevin_Axion said:
What do you mean? My reasoning isn't flawed, in fact, it completely negates your point, ultimately making it an unscientific idea.
Maybe, but it doesn't make any sense. So, I see no reason to bring it up.
 
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How does it not make sense? Firstly, your initial question is arbitrary because the level of reasoning is limited to scientific questions. Asking why something exists holds a great level of uncertainty and probability for error. If I were to ask the common question "Why do electrical charges repel and attract based on them being either positive or negative?" no one would be able to answer your question scientifically. This then exists in the realm of philosophy because as Feynman states asking why questions is pointless, they continue ad infinitum without any reasonable progress in one's understanding.
 
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This is an unscientific conversation. The idea of "purpose" is not relevant to science. Locked.
 

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