What is the significance of military patches for classified branches?

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The discussion centers on the significance of military patches for classified branches of the U.S. military, exploring their implications in terms of secrecy, psychological warfare, and military culture. The scope includes theoretical considerations, historical examples, and anecdotal experiences related to military operations and funding.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that military patches serve as a tool for psychological warfare, creating an illusion of advanced capabilities to deter enemies and reassure voters about national defense.
  • One participant notes the significant financial resources allocated to secret military projects, questioning the ratio of successful innovations to failures, referred to as "boondoggles."
  • Another participant highlights the irony of secretive military units using patches, questioning whether this undermines their intended secrecy.
  • A historical example is provided regarding the SAS's use of deception during WWII, where they misled enemies about their operations to enhance their effectiveness.
  • There is a humorous anecdote shared about a misunderstanding involving military ranks and the implications of authority within classified branches.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the purpose and effectiveness of military patches, with no clear consensus on their significance or utility in maintaining secrecy.

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Some claims depend on assumptions about military strategy and the effectiveness of psychological operations, which remain unresolved in the discussion.

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This could actually be a safe and cost effective alternative.
Create an imaginary weapon/unit/project - leak details about it's capabilities and a few badges.
It makes the enemy afraid to attack and makes the voters feel that they are being defended - the basic two roles of any military funding.

In WWII the SAS-Special Air Service actually used jeeps to attack across the desert but were named so that any rumours / documents would make the enemy assume they were paratroops.
 
$32 Billion per year that doesn't show on the books !

Those billions have expanded a secret world of advanced science and technology in which military units and federal contractors push back the frontiers of warfare. In the past, such handiwork has produced some of the most advanced jets, weapons and spy satellites, as well as notorious boondoggles.

I wonder what the success to boondoggle ratio is
 
The problem with secret projects is that you don't get to brag about the successes - like the 1968 USAF moon landing!
 
mgb_phys said:
This could actually be a safe and cost effective alternative.
Create an imaginary weapon/unit/project - leak details about it's capabilities and a few badges.
It makes the enemy afraid to attack and makes the voters feel that they are being defended - the basic two roles of any military funding.

In WWII the SAS-Special Air Service actually used jeeps to attack across the desert but were named so that any rumours / documents would make the enemy assume they were paratroops.

Doesn't the Spetznaz have a group dedicated solely to doing cool tricks like jumping over trucks while doing backflips and throwing knives at targets just to impress the politicians?
 
Why have patches for a secret service, doesn't that sort of defeat the object. :smile: I remember once seeing a sergeant chew out a "civillian" for walking across the parade ground, only to find out that he was a sergeant in the SAS and technically he outranked him. That was dead funny. Especially when the security officer had to take him aside and explain why he should shut up before he embarrassed himself further. :biggrin: I liked that job. :smile: shame it was a temp job.
 

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