What is the significance of the constant k in the brachistochrone problem?

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The discussion revolves around the significance of the constant k in the context of the brachistochrone problem, particularly its physical meaning and role in the parametric equations of the cycloid. Participants explore the relationship between k and the curve's properties as it relates to the motion of a particle along the path.

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  • One participant questions the physical meaning of the constant k in the brachistochrone problem and its role in the parametric equations.
  • Another participant points out that k appears in the parametric equations of the cycloid, specifically in the expressions for x and y coordinates.
  • A different participant explains that k (or k²) represents the "height" of the humps in the cycloid's equation.
  • One participant describes a method for determining k by substituting values into the function derived from the parametric equations, suggesting that k is linked to accurately drawing the arc based on specified points.

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Participants express differing levels of understanding regarding the significance of k, with some clarifying its role while others seek further explanation. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the complete physical interpretation of k.

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The discussion includes references to specific mathematical expressions and methods, but the implications of these methods and their assumptions remain unresolved. There is also a reliance on external resources for clarification of concepts.

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Hello!

I am currently studying the brachistochrone problem in the Boyce-Di Prima D. E. book. While following their indications on the resolution of the problem for the curve as it passes through the point (x0; y0), i find myself wondering what the constant k really means (physically speaking).

Using the bisection method i was told can find a value for k (replacing values in the function f(θ)=2θ-2"sin" θ+"cos" θ-1) but yet again what does that value represent and how is that a solution to the brach. problem?

I know this sounds a little murky, but that's the state of my understanding...so thanks for any help!
 
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Where is the symbol "k" in any of those expressions you wrote out? >_>
 
it's actually in the parametric equations: x= (k^2 (θ-"sin" θ))/2 and
y=(k^2 (1-"cos" θ))/2
for the position in function of time of the particle as it slides along the curve (i think).
 
The parametric representation you give above is actually the parametrisation of the cycloid. The value of $k$ here (or $k^2$ if you will) represents the "height" of the humps in the equation of the cylcoid itself.

If you are unfamiliar with the cycloid, check Wolfram.

http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Cycloid.html
 
So if i say i want the cycloid to pass through the point x0=1 and y0=2 and i resolve the parametric equations until i get f(θ)=2θ-2"sin" θ+"cos" θ-1 and then i replace random values into the function until i get one that will make it equal zero, then k equals it as well (k≅2.193)...and so if i understand correctly 2.193 is what 'makes' the equation 'draw' the arc accurately based on the first point (x0=1 and y0=2) it starts from?

Thanks a lot for the informative wolfram reference!
 

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