What is the size of elementary particles?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of the size of elementary particles, exploring the implications of their representation at different scales and the meaning behind assigned sizes. Participants question whether elementary particles can be considered dimensionless and discuss various interpretations of size in this context.

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  • One participant questions the meaning of sizes attributed to elementary particles, suggesting that they are typically considered dimensionless.
  • Another participant proposes that the sizes might relate to concepts like the "classical electron radius" or the volume defined by a particle's wavefunction.
  • A later reply identifies that the sizes may correspond to the Compton wavelength of particles, providing specific examples such as the top quark and the classical electron radius.

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Participants express differing views on the interpretation of size for elementary particles, with no consensus reached on what these sizes represent or whether they imply dimensionality.

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Participants reference specific theoretical concepts such as the Compton wavelength and classical electron radius, but the discussion does not resolve the implications of these concepts on the dimensionality of elementary particles.

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"Size" of elemetary particles

I stumbled upon this nice link showing the universe at different scales: http://htwins.net/scale2/

However, if you scroll down to the attometer scale you get to the elementary particles which have been given sizes. Does anyone know what these sizes mean? I thought elementary particles were dimensionless and so have no strict size.
 
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I'd guess it either refers to something similar to a "classical electron radius" or it uses their wavefunction to determine the volume of space they are likely to occupy and base the size on that.
 
Vampyr said:
I stumbled upon this nice link showing the universe at different scales: http://htwins.net/scale2/ However, if you scroll down to the attometer scale you get to the elementary particles which have been given sizes. Does anyone know what these sizes mean? I thought elementary particles were dimensionless and so have no strict size.
You're correct. Apparently what he's diagramming here is the Compton wavelength for each particle, ħ/mc. Of the six quarks, the top quark has the greatest rest mass, hence the shortest Compton wavelength. Electron (classical) is the classical electron radius, e2/mc2.
 
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