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The discussion revolves around solving the inequality |x/(x-2)| < 5, focusing on different methods to handle absolute values and inequalities. Participants explore various approaches to arrive at the solution, including cross multiplication, squaring both sides, and splitting the absolute value into separate inequalities.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion over their solution, which differs from the book's answer, suspecting an issue with handling the absolute value.
  • Another participant suggests squaring both sides of the inequality as a method to eliminate the absolute value, proposing that this leads to a solvable inequality.
  • A different approach is presented where the absolute value is split into two separate inequalities, with a caution about the implications of cross multiplying when dealing with inequalities and the signs of terms involved.
  • One participant summarizes their findings from solving the split inequalities, noting discrepancies with the book's answer and questioning the correctness of their results.
  • Further clarification is provided regarding the lower limits of x, emphasizing the need to satisfy both conditions derived from the inequalities.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct solution to the inequality, as multiple methods yield different results, and there is uncertainty regarding the validity of each approach.

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Participants express uncertainty about the implications of their methods, particularly in relation to the signs of terms when cross multiplying and the conditions under which their solutions hold true.

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What is the solution of |x/(x-2)| < 5 ?

So, I did this the usual way of moving over the 5 to the left side and then cross multiplying and simplifying etc. However, I keep getting the wrong answer. I got x < 5/3 and x > 2, while the answer in the book says that it's x< 5/3 and x > 5/2.

What did I do wrong? I'm assuming it has something to do with the absolute value sign, but I'm not sure how to figure it out...
 
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What do yo mean with cross multiplying? I'm not familiar with this.

I would solve it this way: to get rid of the absolut value signs you can square both sides, that is

$$\left | \frac{x}{x-2}\right | < 5 \Rightarrow \frac{x^2}{(x-2)^2} < 25$$
Solving this inequality gives the desired result.
 
Another way to get rid of the absolute value:
[math]\left | \frac{x}{x - 2} \right | < 5[/math]

splits into the two inequalities:
[math]\frac{x}{x - 2} < 5[/math]

and
[math]-\frac{x}{x - 2} < 5[/math]

and solve them separately.

The trouble with cross multiplying when using inequalities is that we need to know the sign of what we are multiplying by. For example -4/x < 1 when x is positive, but -4/x > 1 when x is negative. The same thing will occur for the x - 2 term.

-Dan
 
topsquark said:
Another way to get rid of the absolute value:
[math]\left | \frac{x}{x - 2} \right | < 5[/math]

splits into the two inequalities:
[math]\frac{x}{x - 2} < 5[/math]

and
[math]-\frac{x}{x - 2} < 5[/math]

and solve them separately.

The trouble with cross multiplying when using inequalities is that we need to know the sign of what we are multiplying by. For example -4/x < 1 when x is positive, but -4/x > 1 when x is negative. The same thing will occur for the x - 2 term.

-Dan

So I solved each of those and for the first one I got that it's negative at x<2 and x>5/2. For the second I got that it's negative at x<5/3 and x>2. Is this correct? The book had a different answer (x<5/3 and x>5/2).
 
eleventhxhour said:
So I solved each of those and for the first one I got that it's negative at x<2 and x>5/2. For the second I got that it's negative at x<5/3 and x>2. Is this correct? The book had a different answer (x<5/3 and x>5/2).
All of this has to come together. Take a look first at the lower limits of x. We have x < 2 and x < 5/3. In order for both of these to be true then we require that x < 5/3, because 5/3 is smaller than 2...both conditions are satisfied by this. See if you can do the upper limits of x based on a similar argument.

-Dan
 

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