What is the time to reach 98% of terminal velocity?

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The discussion revolves around determining the time required for an object to reach 98% of its terminal velocity, as described by a differential equation modeling the motion of a falling object. Participants explore the mathematical solution and clarify aspects of the equation involved.

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  • One participant presents a differential equation, dv/dt = 9.8 - (v/5), and derives a solution for the velocity of a falling object.
  • Another participant corrects the sign in the exponential term of the solution, suggesting it should be v = 49(1 - e^(-t/5)).
  • A participant expresses confusion about the derivation of the term "5 * ln(50)" from the book's solution.
  • Another participant clarifies that the "50" arises from the equation e^(-t/5) = 0.02, leading to t = 5 * ln(50).

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the initial solution due to a sign error, but there is agreement on the correct form of the equation and the derivation of the "50" in the logarithmic expression.

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The discussion highlights the importance of correctly interpreting the exponential decay in the context of the problem, as well as the need for careful manipulation of logarithmic expressions. Some assumptions about the initial conditions and the nature of the solution may not be fully explored.

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This discussion may be useful for students or individuals interested in differential equations, physics of motion, or those seeking clarification on mathematical modeling of falling objects.

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Ok, there's a differential equation that is:

dv/dt = 9.8 - (v/5), v(0) = 0

to represent a falling object. So the solution ends up being

v = 49(1 - e^t/5)

and the equilibrium solution (terminal velocity) is v = 49.

Now I have a problem that says "find the time that must elapse for the object to reach 98% of its limiting velocity"

To do this, I am doing the following:

terminal velocity * 98% = the equation...
49 * 0.98 = 49(1 - e^t/5)

div by 49...
0.98 = 1 - e^t/5

move 1 over and multiply both sides by -1...
1 - 0.98 = e^t/5

use ln...
ln(1 - 0.98) = t/5

mult by 5...

5 * ln(1 - 0.98) = t

so:
t = -19.56


now... in the book's solution, it states:
T = 5 * ln(50) ~= 19.56

So, where is this 50 coming from? And my answer looks to be right except for the sign, where did I go wrong?
 
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It should be v = 49(1 - e^(-t/5)). Your solution has the velocity exponentially growing.
 
thanks! I knew it would be something stupid that I missed. I still don't get where they got the "5 * ln(50)" from though...
 
0.98 = 1 - e-t/5

e-t/5= 1-0.98= 0.02= 2/100= 1/50
That's where the "50" is from.

Now -t/5= ln(1/50)= -ln(50) so t= 5 ln(50).
 

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