What is the Use of Angle Bisectors in Solving Line Equations?

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The discussion revolves around the use of angle bisectors in the context of line equations, specifically focusing on the angle between two lines represented by a quadratic equation and a linear equation. Participants explore how the angle bisectors relate to the geometry of the lines and the implications for solving the problem.

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  • Participants attempt to expand the given equations and calculate the angle between the lines. Some suggest shifting the origin to simplify the equations, while others express uncertainty about how to proceed with the problem. Questions arise regarding the constants involved and the relationship between the angle bisectors.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various approaches being explored. Some participants have offered guidance on visualizing the problem geometrically, while others are still grappling with the implications of the angle bisectors and the necessary calculations. There is no explicit consensus yet, but the conversation is delving into different interpretations and methods.

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Participants note the challenge of determining the constants in the equations and the need for clarity on the intersection point of the lines. The discussion reflects the constraints of the homework context, where complete solutions cannot be provided.

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Homework Statement


One bisector of the angle between the lines given by a(x-1)^2 + 2h(x-1)y + by^2=0 2x+y-2=0. The other bisector is

The Attempt at a Solution


Expanding
ax^2+2hxy+by^2-2ax-2hy+a=0

The angle between the pair of lines is given by

|\dfrac{2\sqrt{h^2-ab}}{a+b}|

But those constants are still unknown to me. I can't really figure out how the given bisector can help me?
 
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utkarshakash said:

Homework Statement


One bisector of the angle between the lines given by a(x-1)^2 + 2h(x-1)y + by^2=0 2x+y-2=0. The other bisector is

The Attempt at a Solution


Expanding
ax^2+2hxy+by^2-2ax-2hy+a=0

The angle between the pair of lines is given by

|\dfrac{2\sqrt{h^2-ab}}{a+b}|

But those constants are still unknown to me. I can't really figure out how the given bisector can help me?

I suggest shifting the origin to ##(1,0)## and convert the given equation to a homogeneous second degree equation.

Can you take it from here?
 
Pranav-Arora said:
I suggest shifting the origin to ##(1,0)## and convert the given equation to a homogeneous second degree equation.

Can you take it from here?

Shifting the origin only makes the equation simpler. The basic question still remains the same and this is where I'm getting stuck.
 
utkarshakash said:
Shifting the origin only makes the equation simpler. The basic question still remains the same and this is where I'm getting stuck.

I am sorry to mislead you. You don't really need to shift the origin.

What do you think is the angle between the angle bisectors?
 
Pranav-Arora said:
I am sorry to mislead you. You don't really need to shift the origin.

What do you think is the angle between the angle bisectors?

I have already posted the formula needed to calculate it in my original post. However I don't know the constants.
 
utkarshakash said:
I have already posted the formula needed to calculate it in my original post. However I don't know the constants.

The formula you quote is for the angle between the given pair of line, not the angle bisectors.

And you don't need a formula for angle between the angle bisectors. Think simple. Draw two intersecting lines, draw their angle bisectors and find the angle between them. Its quite straightforward then.
 
Pranav-Arora said:
The formula you quote is for the angle between the given pair of line, not the angle bisectors.

And you don't need a formula for angle between the angle bisectors. Think simple. Draw two intersecting lines, draw their angle bisectors and find the angle between them. Its quite straightforward then.

Both will be perpendicular to each other. But what about the intersection point? I only know that slope of other bisector will be 1/2. I also need to find a point to find the exact equation.
 
utkarshakash said:
Both will be perpendicular to each other. But what about the intersection point? I only know that slope of other bisector will be 1/2. I also need to find a point to find the exact equation.
Where does the pair of lines given by the quadratic intersect? You have the equations for those two lines, right?
 
Try this:
Drop a perpendicular from the incentre O to each of the three sides, meeting AB at C', BC at A' and CA at B'. ∠AOB' = ∠AOC' = α, say; ∠BOA' = ∠BOC' = β, etc. So what does α+β+γ equal? What is ∠BOC in terms of these? You can determine the value of ∠BOC. What does that give for the value of α? Can you use AO and α to find r?
 
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haruspex said:
Try this:
Drop a perpendicular from the incentre O to each of the three sides, meeting AB at C', BC at A' and CA at B'. ∠AOB' = ∠AOC' = α, say; ∠BOA' = ∠BOC' = β, etc. So what does α+β+γ equal? What is ∠BOC in terms of these? You can determine the value of ∠BOC. What does that give for the value of α? Can you use AO and α to find r?

I think you mistook this post for my another post. However, your method was really a good one.
 
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utkarshakash said:
I think you mistook this post for my another post. However, your method was really a good one.
Ah - yes. Just copied it to the right thread for the benefit of anyone else reading them.
 

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