What is the Value of the Norm |x|_p in P-adic Analysis?

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The discussion centers on the value of the p-adic norm |x|_p in p-adic analysis, exploring various cases for x and p, as well as the evaluation of integrals over the p-adic numbers Q_p. The scope includes theoretical aspects of p-adic analysis and mathematical reasoning related to integrals.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant queries the value of the norm |x|_p under different conditions for x and p, including cases where p is zero or infinite.
  • Another participant clarifies that in p-adic analysis, p is a prime and that |0|_p equals 0, noting that p=0 is not applicable.
  • It is mentioned that the usual absolute value |x| may be referred to as the ∞-adic absolute value, and that the p-adic absolute value is specifically for p-adic numbers.
  • A participant suggests using the Haar measure for evaluating the integral of |x|_p f(x) over Q_p.
  • Another participant proposes a formula involving Haar measure and expresses a need to expand f into a power series for integration.
  • One reply counters that power series may not be useful due to the countable values of the integrand |x|_p, suggesting that integrals should be converted to sums instead.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the applicability of power series in the context of p-adic integrals, indicating a lack of consensus on the best approach for evaluating the integral.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions and properties of the p-adic norm and the conditions under which the integral is evaluated.

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in p-adic analisis what is the value of the norm [tex]|x|_{p}[/tex]

a) x=0 and p is different from 0

b) x=0 and P=0

c) x=0 and [tex]p=\infty[/tex]

d) x is a real number

e) x is a Rational number and p is infinite

how i evaluate the integral over [tex]Q_{p}[/tex] of [tex]\int_{Q_{p}} |x|_{p}f(x)[/tex]
 
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When you say [itex]p[/itex]-adic analysis, [itex]p[/itex] is a prime, so [itex]p=0[/itex] is not used. [itex]|0|_p = 0[/itex]. Sometimes the usual absolute value [itex]|x|[/itex] is called the [itex]\infty[/itex]-adic absolute value, and [itex]\infty[/itex] is listed among the "primes". The [itex]p[/itex]-adic absolute value is defined for the [itex]p[/itex]-adic numbers, not the real numbers. Except the [itex]\infty[/itex]-adic numbers may mean the real numbers. For your integral, I suppose we use the Haar measure.
 
yes i use Haar measure type i think it was [tex]\frac{p}{p-1}|x|_{p}[/tex] so for p=infinite it becomes 1/x

should i expand f into a power series and then integrate term by term to get the p-adic integral?
 
Power series is probably not useful. Your integrand [tex]|x|_p[/tex] has only countably many values, and integrals of that kind are best converted to sums.
 

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