What makes The Matrix a classic sci-fi film?

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The discussion revolves around opinions on various films, particularly focusing on "The Matrix" and its sequels. Participants express their views on what makes a film classic or not, touching on themes of originality, remakes, and personal preferences in cinema.

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  • Some participants express strong dislike for "The Matrix" and its sequels, labeling them as overrated or inferior to the original.
  • Others argue that "The Matrix" was groundbreaking in its originality and had a significant influence on subsequent films.
  • A few participants suggest that the sequels improved upon the original, with one claiming the second film was the best of the trilogy.
  • There are references to other films that participants consider worse than "The Matrix," including "Citizen Kane," "The Godfather" series, and various remakes.
  • Some participants question the originality of "The Matrix," citing earlier films like "Tron" as predecessors that explored similar themes.
  • Concerns are raised about the trend of remaking classic films, with some participants expressing frustration over Hollywood's reliance on established titles.

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Participants exhibit a range of opinions, with no consensus on the quality or originality of "The Matrix." Some appreciate its impact and creativity, while others dismiss it as unworthy of its acclaim.

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Participants reference various films and their personal experiences with them, indicating a subjective nature to their evaluations. Discussions about originality are complicated by the acknowledgment of influences from earlier works.

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  • #31
Plastic Photon said:
Titanic - there is nothing like watching a movie you already know the ending to

My wife and I had a Video Store a couple of years ago and when this movie came in, one of our customers asked, "Does it have a happy ending?"
:smile: :smile: :smile:

Well, more than 1500 people died in the North Atlantic when a ship thought to be unsinkable sank in a very likely avoidable accident. I'd say "NO!"
 
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  • #32
Evo said:
Tron was about a guiy that gut sucked into a video game, he knew he was in a video game and he had to find a way to get out. I loved Tron, but I can't see any comparison to the Matrix.
I see the comparison in that they were both part of a computer system and their main purpose was to free that system and to return to reality. Flynn and Neo both started out as degenerate computer programmers/hackers...I realize they weren't identical, but I think there is at least a parallel there. I can see how they could have started with Tron as an idea and expanded on it.

Ivan said:
I don't find special effects entertaining for their own sake; ie. they have their place, and great special effects can help to make a great movie greater, but I walked out of Matrix feeling as though the entire movie was really just a special effects showcase.

And Descartes did it first.
I agree with the special effects. They have their place. I was not a huge fan of how much wire work they did for the stunts. I was also not a huge fan of the huge gun battles where a million rounds are fired and only the bad guys get hit. I thought it was entertaining.

You'll have to explain the Descartes reference. I'm not that well read.
 

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