I What makes up the bare mass of elementary particles?

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The discussion centers on the nature of the bare mass and invariant mass of elementary particles, such as electrons, quarks, and neutrinos. It highlights that current theories suggest these particles are best described as quantum fields, which may not satisfy all inquiries into their composition. The difference between bare mass and invariant mass is clarified, with invariant mass being measurable and bare mass serving as a theoretical construct from renormalization. String theory is mentioned as a challenge to understanding these concepts. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the complexities of defining the fundamental properties of elementary particles.
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Is it possible to describe in simple language what elementary particles like electrons, quarks or neutrinos having no inner structure do consist of?
And as an aside what is the difference between bare mass and invariant mass of such particles?
 
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string theory is regarded as a challenge to this quest ion. I don’t know it is the right way or not.
 
timmdeeg said:
Is it possible to describe in simple language what elementary particles like electrons, quarks or neutrinos having no inner structure do consist of?
Not if "they are quantum fields" isn't sufficient for you. That is the only answer that our current theories give.

timmdeeg said:
And as an aside what is the difference between bare mass and invariant mass of such particles?
The invariant mass is what we actually measure. The bare mass is a theoretical artifact that comes in as part of renormalization.
 
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