What role does Quantum Mechanics play in a internal combustion engine?

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

This discussion explores the intersection of quantum mechanics (QM) and internal combustion engines (ICE). While internal combustion engines are fundamentally classical systems, the principles of QM underpin the material properties and constitutive relations of the components involved. The role of QM is primarily observed in the flash memory integrated circuits (ICs) within the Engine Control Unit (ECU) and other electronic systems. The conversation highlights that while QM is not directly applicable to the thermodynamic processes of ICE, it provides foundational insights into atomic stability and energy changes at a microscopic level.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of thermodynamics and its relation to quantum mechanics
  • Familiarity with internal combustion engine mechanics
  • Knowledge of integrated circuits and their operation in automotive applications
  • Basic principles of statistical mechanics
NEXT STEPS
  • Research the role of quantum mechanics in electronic components, specifically flash memory ICs
  • Study the principles of statistical mechanics as they apply to energy changes in closed systems
  • Explore the thermodynamic properties of materials used in internal combustion engines
  • Investigate the relationship between atomic stability and macroscopic properties of matter
USEFUL FOR

Engineers, physicists, and automotive professionals interested in the theoretical underpinnings of internal combustion engines and the application of quantum mechanics in modern automotive electronics.

obbeel
Messages
2
Reaction score
0
Thermodynamics deal with quantum mechanics all the time, so I wondered what role it played in a internal combustion engine. Could we calculate it and how does it affect the engine's final output?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Internal combustion engines are classical.

Of course you can always apply QM to classical systems if you want to make a point. And a lot of the classical constitutive relations and material properties would be derived from QM in principle if not in practice
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: sym666, vanhees71, Vanadium 50 and 3 others
obbeel said:
so I wondered what role it played in a internal combustion engine.
About the only place is in the flash memory ICs in the Engine Control Unit (ECU) and other electronics (like the Entertainment Center). Can you say why flash memory ICs use QM in their operation? What part of their operation specifically? :wink:
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: vanhees71 and obbeel
I don't really understand the question. The model T certainly predates quantum theory so Henry Ford did OK.
But the world is unstable according classical theory, so there is that.
 
  • Like
  • Love
Likes   Reactions: obbeel, vanhees71 and Vanadium 50
I was going to write something much like @hutchphd did. One might say that QM explains the stability of atoms, and IC engines are made of atoms, so... but I somehow don't think this is what the poster had in mind.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: obbeel, vanhees71 and hutchphd
I'm interested in the method that heat energy changes at an individual level. We can measure the heat output of an internal combustion engine, but how do the changes occur? I'm sure there is a chemical answer to this, but what would be the answer if we sum all individual atoms energies?

Maybe the answer would be in a statistical mechanics book, but I found it interesting how a enclosed space like an internal combustion engine can represent a change in atom energy.
 
obbeel said:
Maybe the answer would be in a statistical mechanics book,
Yes, that is where you’ll find it. And there’s no quantum physics involved, it’s all bulk properties of matter.

This thread is closed.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 22 ·
Replies
22
Views
3K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
1K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
1K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
3K
  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
2K
  • · Replies 18 ·
Replies
18
Views
1K