http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...n-cloning-to-head-off-mps-revolt-799931.html" And then today... http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ree-vote-on-parts-of-embryo-bill-800353.html" Not that this will make any difference, but it does allow a minority of members to have their say. It seems The Church frustrated at the moral decline of the UK is ever more vocal these days, but being as most people are somewhat secular in the UK - at least by a small majority - no one really takes their views that seriously. But I would be interested to find out how much influence "The Church"/state religion/theocracy has in your country and whether this is a good thing or a bad thing? Do you think the Church has any right at all to dictate politics, or influence politics? Except of course in terms of individual members of governments personal views, which is all part of the democratic process. Should Church leaders be able, for example, to say that condoms are against the law, or abortion or ESCR, or homosexuality? Or any of the issues that have been common place in the media? With Jewish Rabbis saying that homosexuality caused Earth quakes and English Bishops saying homosexuality caused floods, are these people given too much of a voice, or is it a good thing to show how stupid there views are? Muslim Clerics burning Western flags and inciting rioting in order to protest Danish cartoons. Or actually being the government? Is this a good thing for the world, and in your neck of the woods do you think The Church has too much or too little say? What do you think?