What Sci-Fi Got Right: Asimov's 1972 Novel & Its Impact on Politics

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The discussion revolves around the themes presented in Isaac Asimov's 1972 novel The Gods Themselves, particularly its portrayal of free energy and the political implications of scientific discoveries. Participants explore the societal reactions to environmental threats and compare Asimov's work to other science fiction, such as George Orwell's 1984, in terms of their predictions about society and governance.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant highlights a quote from Senator Burt in Asimov's novel, suggesting that the public prioritizes individual comfort over environmental protection, which raises questions about political accountability in the face of scientific discovery.
  • Another participant speculates on the societal backlash that would occur if a mandate were introduced to limit personal freedoms, such as driving, indicating a potential resistance to necessary but uncomfortable changes.
  • A third participant references the concept of organlegging from science fiction, noting that while it is not widely accepted in reality, the possibility of such practices reflects societal fears and ethical dilemmas raised in speculative fiction.
  • A later reply draws a parallel between Asimov's themes and Orwell's depiction of a surveillance society in 1984, suggesting that both authors address critical issues regarding governance and individual rights, though they approach them from different angles.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of Asimov's and Orwell's works, with some agreeing on the relevance of these themes to contemporary society while others focus on the specific societal reactions to the scenarios presented. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the extent to which these fictional predictions align with current realities.

Contextual Notes

Participants do not fully explore the assumptions underlying their claims about public behavior and political motivations, nor do they clarify the definitions of key terms like "free energy" and "organlegging." The discussion also lacks a detailed examination of the societal context in which these fictional scenarios might unfold.

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Science fiction author Isaac Asimov's 1972 novel The Gods Themselves is about mankind having discovered how to get free energy. It's great until some scientists figure out it is going to cause the Sun to go nova and destroy the Earth. Here's what happens when they talk to a senator.

"Let me give you a lesson in practical politics." Senator Burt looked at his wristwatch, leaned back and smiled. "It is a mistake," he said, "to suppose the public wants the environment protected or their lives saved and that they will be grateful to any idealist who will fight for such end.. What the the public wants is their own individual comfort."

Then he tell them that the voters aren't going to give up free energy and if the world is destroyed, well, that's just too bad. Gotta be impressed.
 
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Imagine people being told there’s a new mandate to stop driving for x months. There would be riots everywhere.
 
Organlegging
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So far it is not a really widely accepted practice, but Sci-Fi definitely got the possibility right :frown:
Also, I wonder how much of the resistance against this can be attributed to the early warning.
 
Hornbein said:
Science fiction author Isaac Asimov's 1972 novel The Gods Themselves...
Decades before that, George Orwell penned 1984, and surely his prediction of the surveillance society and Ministry of Truth is more frightening, even if you don't classify his novel as sci-fi.