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The discussion revolves around the symmetries present in a given action involving fields A and B, specifically focusing on identifying global and local symmetries, as well as the degrees of freedom (dof) associated with these fields. The context includes theoretical considerations in field theory.

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  • Post 1 introduces the action and asks about global and local symmetries, as well as the degrees of freedom of the fields involved.
  • Post 2 questions the relationship between A and B fields and proposes that the action has 1 dof as a scalar quantity, while also suggesting that A, if a massive bosonic field, should have 3 dof and B, being an antisymmetric tensor, has 6 dof in 4 dimensions.
  • Post 3 clarifies that A and B are independent and calculates the dof of H as 4, leading to a total of 12 dof when considering A and H together.
  • Post 4 suggests applying Noether's procedure to identify symmetries and notes Lorentz symmetry as a global symmetry due to the absence of free indices.
  • Post 5 expresses uncertainty about the necessity of the dof of the strength field tensor and questions the correctness of the dof calculations presented earlier.
  • Post 6 provides a formula for the number of independent components of a p-form in n dimensions, affirming the earlier discussion about H's dof.
  • Post 7 agrees that the 6 dof of B are significant but mentions that B has a gauge symmetry, which reduces the effective dof to 3.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the degrees of freedom associated with the fields A and B, with some calculations leading to conflicting conclusions. There is also a lack of consensus on the necessity of certain dof in relation to the action's symmetries.

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Discussions about the degrees of freedom are contingent on the definitions and assumptions regarding the fields involved, particularly concerning gauge symmetries and the nature of the action.

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S=\int d^4x\frac{m}{12}A_μ ε^{μ \nu ρσ} H_{\nu ρσ} + \frac{1}{8} m^2A^μA_μ
Where
H_{\nu ρσ} = \partial_\nu B_{ρσ} + \partial_ρ B_{σ\nu} + \partial_σ B_{\nu ρ}

And B^{μ \nu} is an antisymmetric tensor.

What are the global symmetries and what are the local symmetries?

p.s how many degrees of freedom does it have?

Thank you!
 
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Has A_{\mu} anything to do with the B_{\mu \nu}?

And what does it have dofs?
The Action is a (real) scalar quantity, so it has 1 dof.

if A_{\mu} is a massive bosonic field, it should have 3 dofs.
and about B^{\mu \nu} just by being an antisymmetric tensor (in Lorentz repr it is a 4x4 in your case matrix) will have:
\frac{D^{2}}{2}-D = \frac{D(D-1)}{2}
free parameters. So for D=4, you have 6 dofs...
 
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Thanks ChrisVer,
A^\mu has nothing to do with B_{\mu \nu}
I meant the number dof of the theory.
H_{\nu ρσ} is antisymmetric, so it has only \binom{4}{3}=4 dof, doesn't it? thus in total it's 3X4=12 dof, isn't it?

And more important for me is to know the action symmetries, both the global and the local ones.

thanks.
 
For the symmetries you should apply the Noether's procedure ...
A global symmetry which I can see before hand is the Lorentz Symmetry (since you don't have any free indices flowing around)
 
Also I don't think you need the dofs of the strength field tensor anywhere, do you?
It gives the kinetic term of your field B_{\mu \nu}
I am not sure though about the dofs now...you might be right.
 
For the H you were right.
H is a p=3-form, and a general p-form in n dimensions has:
\frac{n!}{(n-p)!p!} ind. components.
 
You're probably right, it's the 6 dof of B that matters.
But apparently B has a gauge symmetry, so only 3 dof left.
 

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