What Went Wrong with My Calculation on Significant Figures?

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The discussion revolves around the application of significant figures in a mathematical calculation involving multiplication and division. Participants explore the rules of significant figures, identify potential errors in calculations, and clarify the importance of maintaining significant figures throughout the process.

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  • One participant presents a calculation involving significant figures and seeks help in identifying where they went wrong.
  • Another participant points out a potential error in the division step, suggesting a missing zero.
  • A third participant discusses the rules of significant figures, emphasizing that zeros used for decimal placement are not significant but must still be considered in calculations.
  • There is a contention regarding when to round numbers, with one participant arguing that rounding should only occur at the end of calculations.
  • A later reply suggests using scientific notation to clarify significant figures and provides an alternative calculation method.

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Participants express differing views on the treatment of zeros in significant figures and the timing of rounding during calculations. No consensus is reached on the correct approach to the problem.

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Participants reference various rules regarding significant figures, but there is ambiguity regarding the application of these rules in the specific calculation presented. The discussion highlights the complexity of significant figures and the potential for misunderstanding.

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I'm currently re-teaching my self maths to get into physics as i sucked at maths in school but now I am older I feel like actually learning it !

So I'm on a website which gave me a test quiz i got them all correct bar one but it won't tell me the answer so ill show you the question and my answer see if you can help work out where i have miscalculated.Solve the following problem with correct numbers of significant digits:
2.1 * 5.2 - 1.45 / 0.02303

My workings:

1.45 / 0.2303 = 6.296135475466782457663916630482
2.1 * 5.2 = 10.92

10.92 - 6.296135475466782457663916630482 = 4.623864524533217542336083369518

Rounded to lowest significant digits in the sum.
So my answer was: 4.6

But that's incorrect.

Any ideas where i went wrong in my steps?
 
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Hey tfsc and welcome to the forums.

Take a look at this line:

1.45 / 0.2303

Is there a missing 0? ;)
 
Well i thought this at first but according to the documentation of what classifies as a significant digit it says:

The significant digits represent the valid digits of a number. The following rules summarize the significant digits:

Nonzero digits are always significant.
All final zeros after the decimal points are significant.
Zeros between two other significant digits are always significant.
Zeros used solely for spacing the decimal point are not significant.

So that one 0 is not significant so you don't calculate with it. =/Argh i figured it out now - the rules regarding rounding up and down were little confusing ! Also it appears you do include the insignificant numbers during calculation so the answer is -52.
 
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When you are dealing with significant figures or rounded answers, you can't change the numbers involved in the calculation. The thing that you have to process is the final answer and not any of the existing data that you are given.
 
Saying that a zero, used for placement of the decimal point, is not significant does not mean you can simply ignore it. 0.0203 is simply not the same number as .203 whether you are thinking "significant" figures or not. To really work with significant figures, use scientific notation: to two significant figures, 0.02303 is [itex]2.3 \times 10^{-2}[/itex].


chiro's statement that you should not round until the end is not entirely true- though it is a good idea to include at least one more significant figure in each calculation than you want at the end. To three significant figures, 0.02303 is [itex]2.30\times 10^{-2}[/itex], so 1.45/0.02303 becomes [itex]\frac{1.45}{2.30}\times 10^2= 0.630 \times 10^2= 6.30\times 10^1= 63.0[/itex].
 

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