Will Mrs. Miers Face a Filibuster or Recess Appointment?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around predictions regarding the nomination of Mrs. Miers to the Supreme Court, exploring potential outcomes such as confirmation, filibuster, or recess appointment. Participants express various opinions on her qualifications, political implications, and the dynamics within the Senate.

Discussion Character

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  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that Miers could be filibustered until a recess appointment is made, similar to the case of Bolton.
  • Others express skepticism about her qualifications, with one participant stating she would be a weak justice and not on par with previous nominees like Roberts.
  • There are questions about whether Miers will even make it to the Senate floor for a vote, with some participants indicating they would have voted for that option if available.
  • Concerns are raised about the political ramifications of withdrawing her nomination, suggesting it could undermine Bush's political capital and future nominations.
  • Some participants criticize Miers' perceived lack of experience and impartiality, questioning her judgment regarding President Bush's intelligence.
  • There is mention of shifting Republican support based on Miers' previously expressed anti-abortion views, raising questions about party unity.
  • A humorous remark about her future prospects suggests a dramatic decline in her status, reflecting the uncertainty surrounding her nomination.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions, with no clear consensus on Miers' nomination. Some believe she will be confirmed, while others predict she will face significant opposition or fail to reach a vote.

Contextual Notes

The discussion reflects varying levels of engagement with the nomination process and differing interpretations of political dynamics, particularly regarding party support and individual qualifications.

What will come of the Miers nomination?

  • She will be given a floor vote and confirmed without a fillibuster

    Votes: 2 18.2%

  • She will be given a floor vote and rejected, mostly by Democrats

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • She will be given a floor vote and rejected, mostly by Republicans

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • She will be given a floor vote and rejected bi-partisanly

    Votes: 6 54.5%

  • She will be fillibustered by Democrats, eventually confirmed

    Votes: 3 27.3%

  • She will be fillibustered by Democrats, eventually rejected

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • She will be fillibustered by Republicans, eventually confirmed

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • She willbe fillibustered by Republicans, eventually rejected

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • She will be fillibustered bi-partisanly, eventually confirmed

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • She will be fillibustered bi-partisanly, eventually rejected

    Votes: 0 0.0%
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    11
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Just want to see some solid predictions about what'll happen to the Miers nomination.

Unfortunately, I couldn't fit in all the options.

She could be fillibustered until Congress takes a recess and appointed in a recess appointment, Bolton style. Come to think of it, that actually seems like the most likley option, unless she's quickly rejected.
 
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She'll be confirmed.

She'll be a very weak justice.

I hope I am wrong on #1. #2 I have less concern about. But I thought the Roberts nomination had merit, and this candidate just doesn't seem to be in the same ballpark.
 
Where's "She will not even make it to the floor"?
 
Didn't know it was a poll, I voted for the filibuster --> confirmation.
 
faust9 said:
Where's "She will not even make it to the floor"?
Not enough room for it, would've put it if I could.

Though if she doesn't make it to the floor, Bush'll probabally just pull a recess appointment.
 
Can you do that for the SC??
 
Well, I'm seeing Bork here, so my vote would have been she wouldn't even make it to the floor. I chose the next best thing.
 
pattylou said:
Can you do that for the SC??
I believe that's how John Kennedy got Thurgood Marshall, the first black supreme court justice, on the court.
 
pattylou said:
Can you do that for the SC??
You can make a recess appointment for the USSC, but it's only affective until the next session of Congress convenes - i.e. until Jan 2006.

I voted rejected bipartisanly. There's one big problem with withdrawing her. A defeat for Bush now and the loss of respect that would create just makes the next nominee an impossible proposition. He goes with a nominee that appeals to his right, the left and moderates have no fear of voting against them. He goes with a moderate nominee, his own right will have no fear against dropping their support for him. The second would be the only feasible option should he replace Miers, but he'll have no political base if he caves into the moderates and left.

His 'political capital' is just about completely spent. He has to see the Mier's nomination out to its end, one or the other, or give up all hope of having any second term agenda.

Or, the shifts we saw post-Katrina become more exaggerated and he tries to generate a political base by switching to the Democratic Party. That would be dramatic. Sure, it's extremely unlikely, but, hey, after you've been 'born again' once, it's gets easier the second time. Eventually, he could even say, "I know reincarnation's real! I've been reborn nineteen times before."
 
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If you look closely at Miers, she appears to be in ill health. She is an amateur, it is obvious she is a one trick pony being put in place to facilitate one issue. The issue is abortion.

We need seasoned jurists to run our Supreme Court, and since this adminstration is dead in the water, regardless of how much spin is bought and paid for, there is no danger to any Senator or Representative to oppose this nominee. Somewhere, somehow the Houses Of Congress will once again serve the people of this nation. Rejecting the Miers nomination would be a good start.
 
  • #11
I am hoping for #4, but then Senator (D-NM) Harry Reid supports Miers. :rolleyes:

I do not think she has the necessary experience, and she does not appear to be as impartial as I would like in an Associate Justice.

And I really have to question her judgement if she thinks Bush is intelligent - or rather the "most intelligent" man she has ever known. ARRGGGHHH! :rolleyes:
 
  • #12
I haven't been following it that closely, but from the bits and pieces I've heard, Republicans weren't supporting her because she lacks intellectual prowess and they didn't know her position on abortion. Then it came out that she had expressed an anti-abortion opinion at some point in her life and the Republicans are now supporting her. Go figure.
 
  • #13
jimmysnyder said:
I haven't been following it that closely, but from the bits and pieces I've heard, Republicans weren't supporting her because she lacks intellectual prowess and they didn't know her position on abortion. Then it came out that she had expressed an anti-abortion opinion at some point in her life and the Republicans are now supporting her. Go figure.
Which Republicans? Republicans aren't exactly the epitome of a united party right now.
 
  • #14
Ooops! Better add another option to the poll. :smile:
 
  • #15
I'm delighted to be wrong!

Yay!
 
  • #16
11. She'll become a bag lady or one of those ladies with 30 cats in her house.
 
  • #17
The Smoking Man said:
11. She'll become a bag lady or one of those ladies with 30 cats in her house.
I'm changing my vote, then. :smile:
 

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