What Will Happen to the USS John F Kennedy CVA-67 After Decommissioning?

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The discussion revolves around the decommissioning of the USS John F. Kennedy (CV-67) and the potential future of the ship. Participants share personal experiences, memories, and historical context related to the aircraft carrier, as well as opinions on its legacy and possible fate after decommissioning.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants reflect on their personal experiences aboard the USS John F. Kennedy, including deployments and significant events during their service.
  • There are mentions of the ship's historical significance, including its christening by Caroline Kennedy and its role in naval aviation history.
  • Some participants express nostalgia for the ship and concern over the decommissioning of older non-nuclear carriers in the fleet.
  • There are discussions about the potential for the USS John F. Kennedy to be preserved as a museum rather than being sold to another country.
  • Participants share images and memories related to the ship, including technical details about its operations and equipment.
  • Some participants joke about the ship's history and the nature of naval service, including light-hearted banter regarding gender roles in the Navy.
  • Questions arise about the various antennas and equipment on the carrier, with some participants providing explanations.

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Participants generally share a sense of nostalgia and respect for the USS John F. Kennedy, but there is no consensus on its future, with some advocating for it to become a museum and others suggesting it could serve another country. The discussion includes both personal anecdotes and technical inquiries, reflecting a mix of agreement on the ship's legacy and disagreement on its potential fate.

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Some participants express uncertainty about the historical context of the ship's operations and the implications of its decommissioning. There are also references to the emotional impact of the ship's legacy on veterans and their families.

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The http://navysite.de/cvn/cv67.htm" will be decommissioned on 23 March 07.

She was my home from Sept '71 to Sept '73. I spent 15 of those months deployed to the Mediterranean. Our 10 month deployment from Dec '71 to Oct '72 stood as the longest cruise until the Nimitz returned from the Persian gulf in '05. We were scheduled to leave Norfolk Va. for a West Pac deployment in Apr of '73 but that was canceled along with the Vietnam war. I still blame Nixon for canceling my round the world cruise. My enlistment ended in Sept '73 so I figured about the time the ship was getting to the shores of Vietnam I would get out.
 
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http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/1995/cv673js5.jpg

...awesome.
 
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I have some old pics I took on a trip up the mast at home. Will post them tomorrow.
 
 
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Thanks for your service, Integral. We owe you a lot. Thanks for the pic, Cyrus, that brought a tear to my eye.
 
cyrusabdollahi said:
image above
...awesome.
4 F-14, 4 F-18, 4 S-3 and an E-2 :biggrin:


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I even remember when she was Christened on May 27, 1967 by President Kennedy's 9-year-old daughter, Caroline, who broke the bottle against the bow.

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What?? No mention of the 2 SH-60's, Astro? The rotary wing guys get no respect.

I didn't realize that we had many non-nukes left in the fleet. It's tough seeing the old ones go.
 
I cringe to re-read the accounts of the war games that had the Saratoga attacking Pearl Harbor in 1938 with pretty much the same results.
 
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Ok, here are some of the images I mentioned earlier.

I apologize for the lack of image quality, these were taken with a Minox, the one and same type of camera you will see James Bond use to take illicit images of documents. The negitive size is fingernail size, about 3x5 mm. In addtion the prints are 35yrs ond. I have done some color correction.

I was safty backup for the Tacan tech working on the antenna dome at the very top of the mast.

http://home.comcast.net/~integral50/EAM/Mar14_01.jpg
This is a shot from the mast over the port quarter. A call to port quarters meant that you could empty your garbage can off of the weatherdeck on the port side of the stern. We would leave a trail of red bobbing coke cans miles long.
We are looking across the flight deck with arresting gear visible as the 3 parallel lines crossing the strip. Note that there are no planes spotted on the runway, we are ready to retreive.

http://home.comcast.net/~integral50/EAM/Mar14_02.jpg
This shot over the bow shows a squadron spotted on the 2 bow cats. Note the men waking across the flight deck near a rectanual box painted on the flight deck, these are the deflection plates that raise during a launch to redirect the exhaust gases of jets.


http://home.comcast.net/~integral50/EAM/Mar14_03.jpg
Note the radar antenna in the lower left corner. The story goes that one of my shipmates working on that radar dropped a wrench into one of those radomes parked there.

http://home.comcast.net/~integral50/EAM/May09_12.jpg

Ahh! Home Sweet home, looking aft over the starbord side. My berthing area was 2 decks down about the center of this pic. Note the line of F4s spotted with their tails outboard and the one F4 spotted at an angle to the rest bejind a white dashed line painted on the flightdeck. That plane is in the engine test spot. The jet mecanics would spot a plane there to test the jet engines/ afterburners. I am sure many of you oldtimers remeber haveing (or being) the teenager tinkering with his hot rod engine... give the kid a jet engine. By the way I did usually work the graveyard shift!
http://home.comcast.net/~integral50/EAM/May09_13.jpg
 
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Thanks for the pictures and thank you for your service. My nephew is career Navy and over the past 10 years or so he has been sailor of the year for his ship, his group, his fleet, etc. He has served on specialized ships, like sub rescue vessels, but has served most of his time on these floating airports. He doesn't get back to Maine often, and usually, his time off cannot easily be coordinated with that of his wife (also Navy), so we see him and his beautiful daughter every couple of years.
 
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http://home.comcast.net/~integral50/EAM/JFK1s.JPG
Looking over the starboard side of the island. What you see is the top of the stacks, we had 8 boilers generating over 200,000 Hp driving 4 screws.

Now if I can just get Zz to hold a pic from the mast of an aircraft carrier contest!

http://home.comcast.net/~integral50/EAM/JFK3s.JPG
Here is Dave Kopper a good friend and execellent tech working on the Tacan antenna. Note the finger covering the upper left.

http://home.comcast.net/~integral50/EAM/JFK4s.JPG

http://home.comcast.net/~integral50/EAM/JFK5s.JPG


http://home.comcast.net/~integral50/EAM/JFK7s.JPG

http://home.comcast.net/~integral50/EAM/May09_17.jpg
 
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FredGarvin said:
What?? No mention of the 2 SH-60's, Astro? The rotary wing guys get no respect.

I didn't realize that we had many non-nukes left in the fleet. It's tough seeing the old ones go.
Shiver me timbers! I was focusing on the formation upper right and didn't notice the little whirlybird lower left near the horizon. And I didn't mention the lineups on deck. :rolleyes:

Hey the Constellation was just decomissioned a few years ago (7 August 2003). She was based on San Diego.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Constellation_(CV-64)

"Connie was replace by Ronnie (CVN-76)." :rolleyes:

Now Australia needs a couple of carriers. It would be cool if they could pickup Connie and JFK.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/39/USS_Constellation_CV-64.jpg/300px-USS_Constellation_CV-64.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_John_F._Kennedy_(CV-67)
 
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Astronuc said:
4 F-14, 4 F-18, 4 S-3 and an E-2 :biggrin:

Hey, you sunk my battleship! :smile: (I couldn't resist...it took me a moment to figure out what all those numbers were and the first thing that came to mind was the game...blame the illness I'm coming down with for such slow thinking. :redface: )
 
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Moonbear said:
Hey, you sunk my battleship! :smile: (I couldn't resist...it took me a moment to figure out what all those numbers were and the first thing that came to mind was the game...blame the illness I'm coming down with for such slow thinking. :redface: )

This is why we don't let women on aircraft carriers...:wink:
 
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cyrusabdollahi said:
This is why we don't let women on aircraft carriers...:wink:

Hah...I think it's more that they can't risk having all the men's egos burst. :biggrin:
 
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Moonbear said:
Hey, you sunk my battleship! :smile:
:smile: Good one! :smile:
 
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berkeman said:
Thanks for your service, Integral. We owe you a lot. Thanks for the pic, Cyrus, that brought a tear to my eye.

Thanks for the thoughts. I have trouble relating to many other Vietnam era vets; I was touring the Med while the real vets were living in the Vietnam mud. I am little more then a draft dodger who found the perfect dodge. Uncle Sam paid for my college education to boot.

Note that I am editing in some text on the posted pictures.
 
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Astronuc said:
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Now Australia needs a couple of carriers. It would be cool if they could pickup Connie and JFK.
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I am sorry, this would break my heart. I could not bear to see the JKF in servitude to a foreign power. I think she is a perfect candidate to become Cold War era museum.
 
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Hey, I've always wanted to know. What the heck are all those things that hang out the sides of the carriers? They look like antennas, but I think there for something else.
 
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The deck edge is lined with whip antennas, that may be just what you are seeing.
 
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Man. It is so cool to see all of those F-4s and A-7s. It was a horrible time because of the war, but such a cool period for naval aviation. She didn't still have a wood deck back then, did she Integral? One of your pictures (the one with all of the sailors standing around) makes it look like it did.
 
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Integral said:
I am sorry, this would break my heart. I could not bear to see the JKF in servitude to a foreign power. I think she is a perfect candidate to become Cold War era museum.
Australia is not a 'foreign' power. :biggrin:

I am concerned that JFK, which is similar to the Kitty Hawk class, may experience the same fate as Connie.

FredGarvin said:
Man. It is so cool to see all of those F-4s and A-7s.
Yep. Some cool aircraft. :cool: