What Would Happen if a Supercap with 318 Wh-kg Energy Explodes?

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The discussion centers on the potential dangers of supercapacitors (supercaps) with an energy density of 318 Wh-kg, particularly in hybrid vehicles. Participants highlight that while these supercaps offer significant energy storage, their explosion risk is contingent on factors like overheating and physical damage. Comparisons are drawn to traditional explosives, emphasizing that explosiveness is defined by power density rather than energy density. The conversation concludes that supercaps utilizing pseudocapacitance may be less hazardous, but safety measures such as protective casings are essential for their practical application.

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There is a claims that some scientists have developed supercaps with specific energy as high as
318 Wh-kg.Some ot them are using pseudocapacitance principle http://www.springerlink.com/content/w542251jg6034207/"
Im really wondering what would be the power of explosion of such type supercap if it will be installed, let's say, in a hybrid auto?I remember some wrighter wrote that he was terribly scarried by exposion of capacitor with millifarad capacitance in an old-type TV.
So what will happen if supercap with million times greater energy will explode?And also why military is still using traditional explosives?Would not 318 W-kg supercaps be a new word?
Also what about terrorists who will be able to make or purchase such a supercaps?
I whish to know what type of supercap is less dangerous: these based on pseudocapacitance,double electrolitic or graphene based type?
 
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Stanley514 said:
...supercaps with specific energy as high as
318 Wh-kg... what would be the power of explosion of such type supercap if it will be installed, let's say, in a hybrid auto?...
318 watt-hr/kg ~1.1 106 J/kg.
Energy density of ordinary gasoline is roughly 3 107 J/kg.
So they have a way to go to even match the energy density of good old fashion gasoline.
The exploding capacitor you mentioned most likely had burst from excess fluid pressure caused by overheating--not from electric field energy.
 
So they have a way to go to even match the energy density of good old fashion gasoline.
That`s exactly true,but explosiveness of any explosive material is defined by power density rather than energy density.This is why TNT is used instead of gasoline or natural gas.Because it could explode much faster than a gas.
The exploding capacitor you mentioned most likely had burst from excess fluid pressure caused by overheating--not from electric field energy.
What is difference between overheating and electric field explosion?For example if hybrid auto on supercaps will get into a crash and supercap will be physically distructed what power of explosion could be?
Those supercaps which use effect of pseudocapacitance are less dangerous or not?
 
Stanley514 said:
...What is difference between overheating and electric field explosion?
For fun we can calculate some pressures. For the capacitor in the TV, assume 1 millifard at 300Volts. Guess a can size of 2" diameter by 3" long. then the pressure calculates to
(1/2).001 F (300 Volt)2 /(pi (1 in)2 3in)~3 atm.
For the super Cap mentioned assuming a mass density of 2 gm/cc we get
(2 gm/cc)*318 watt hr/kg~2.2 104 atm.
Which is certainly impressive, but these are all negative pressures. The force between capacitor plate is attractive. How do you get an explosion out of that?

Regarding the exploding TV capacitor: Those capacitors were sealed into a metal can filled with liquid electrolyte. A short circuit could heat the contents and cause it to burst. But that is not what I would call an electric field explosion. It's like leaving an aerosol can in a car with the windows rolled up on a very hot day.
 
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The force between capacitor plate is attractive. How do you get an explosion out of that?
A short circuit could heat the contents and cause it to burst.
You answered yourself to you question.Also I suggest that when supercap is physically distructed it will probably short circuited and explode because short circuit will cause a thermal expansion of very high power and hence explosion.I think that large supercups may never by used in hybrid vehicles unless they will not provide huge cevlar casing for protection.But they still may be used in wind or solar power apps...
 

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