What's the matter with a Particle Zoo?

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The discussion centers on the concept of a "Particle Zoo" in physics, questioning why physicists struggle to accept a non-symmetric framework similar to biologists' family trees. It suggests that while asymmetry can be fundamental, understanding symmetries remains crucial for theoretical development. The conversation highlights the idea that a diverse range of particles could imply simpler underlying rules, akin to how atoms lead to various chemical structures. Additionally, the stability of certain particles compared to others is raised as a point of inquiry. Ultimately, the dialogue emphasizes the need for clarity in discussing the implications of particle diversity in theoretical physics.
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If it looks like a Particle Zoo, swims like a Particle Zoo, and quacks like a Particle Zoo, it's a subset of a highly symmetric extension, right?

What's the matter with it just being a Particle Zoo? The Biologists get on just fine talking about family trees and possible extensions without requiring that their zoo be made up of perfectly formed machines. Is there something preventing Physicists from doing this?
 
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I have no idea what you are talking about. Could you perhaps speak more plainly?
 
LukeD said:
If it looks like a Particle Zoo, swims like a Particle Zoo, and quacks like a Particle Zoo, it's a subset of a highly symmetric extension, right?

What's the matter with it just being a Particle Zoo? The Biologists get on just fine talking about family trees and possible extensions without requiring that their zoo be made up of perfectly formed machines. Is there something preventing Physicists from doing this?
You seem to be asking why such a non-symmetric world has to be derived from symmetry groups. In many cases it doesn't, but this would make a lot of theoretical speculation irrelevant.
 
clem said:
You seem to be asking why such a non-symmetric world has to be derived from symmetry groups. In many cases it doesn't, but this would make a lot of theoretical speculation irrelevant.

I disagree. If asymmetry is taken as fundamental, then symmetries still need to be studied so that they can be inserted and then broken.
 
LukeD said:
I disagree. If asymmetry is taken as fundamental, then symmetries still need to be studied so that they can be inserted and then broken.
Why?
 
The particle zoo infers a more simplistic base ruleset, like atoms creating an almost infinite amount of chemical contraptions.

Why are some particles more stable than others?
 

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