What's Your Political Orientation?

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The thread explores participants' political orientations, encompassing a range of views from liberal to conservative, as well as independent and apolitical stances. The discussion touches on personal beliefs, the complexity of political labels, and the nuances of various political ideologies.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants identify as liberal but express disagreement on specific issues.
  • One participant claims to hold views across the political spectrum, from extreme right to extreme left, citing beliefs about IQ and wealth distribution.
  • Another participant expresses a middle-ground perspective but aligns with certain decisions made by Tony Blair.
  • A participant notes the omission of "compassionate conservatives" and "Independent" as political categories.
  • Some participants express a preference for independent thinking over strict political labels, suggesting that labels divide rather than unite.
  • One participant identifies as conservative but holds liberal views on issues like abortion and gun control.
  • Another participant expresses a desire for truth and fairness in politics, feeling that politicians do not allow for meaningful representation of their preferences.
  • Several participants indicate a lack of a fixed political position, with some identifying as apolitical or free-thinkers.
  • One participant humorously states their political position is "six feet under," indicating a disillusionment with politics.
  • A question is raised about the relationship between political position and political momentum.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a variety of political orientations, with no clear consensus on a single viewpoint. Many acknowledge the complexity of their beliefs and the inadequacy of traditional labels to fully capture their positions.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the limitations of the original poll options, suggesting that important political categories were omitted or misrepresented.

Which one do you most consider yourself?

  • Liberal

    Votes: 7 31.8%

  • Centrist

    Votes: 1 4.5%

  • Conservative

    Votes: 6 27.3%

  • Libertarian

    Votes: 1 4.5%

  • Socialist/Communist

    Votes: 2 9.1%

  • Anarchist

    Votes: 1 4.5%

  • Politics is for l0sers

    Votes: 4 18.2%
  • Total voters
    22
damgo
I think I know this for everyon in CE&P by now :wink: but I am curious about the rest of PF. So, what are you?

I consider myself to lean liberal on most issues, though there are plenty I disagree on.
 
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I couldn't pick one because I have opinions all the way from extreme right to extreme left.

Extreme right: I believe that IQ, or better g, the factor that connects different IQ test scores, to be a fact of life, and also the difference of distributions in the various subpopulations. This leads me to predict that Head Start never worked and never will, among other violently disliked conclusions.

Extreme left. About 1.5% of the population owns about 50% of the assets in this country. It wouldn't break my heart at all to see these folks expropriated.

Middle: I am in favor of welfare reform, but think more should be done to help the poorest people to find and keep jobs.

War: I was against the war but I am strongly for the troops and feel that now it's started the important thing to do is get it over quickly and bring the troops home.
 
Varying from middle-ish to quite far right. However I agree with many of Tony Blair's decisions over his term (especially Iraq, which Blair really went somewhat against Labour tradition on), so it's a tough one to answer.

Ah, I know - 'politics is for losers'
 
You ommited compassionate conservatives. I feel left out.

Regards
 
You forgot to include "Independent" as a choice.
I like to think/decide things based on the circumstances and the issue, not by labels.
Labels are for dividing into groups; where-as I believe it is better to unite into a whole. But it depends.
 
Yeah, I realize that probably no one here fits really well into a group... but the idea was to get a feeling of the general persuasion. I have a lot of independent positions, but I find I agree with liberals more often than any of the others.
 
You left out social democrat and you lumped socialist with communist, which isn't right. I'm a right socialist or a left liberal. I am definitely not a communist.
 
I'm conservative on most issues, but somewhat liberal on things like abortion and gun control.
 
I'm interested in truth and fairness for all. I would prefer for the most benefit be extended to the most people . Politics, and certainly politicians, will never allow my preferences to exist in a meaningful way.
 
  • #10
I voted 'conservative', but I do disagree with them on religion (as in, I wish conservatives would have nothing to do with it).
 
  • #11
Evidently centrists don't look at internet boards. I'm not suprised.

Njorl
 
  • #12
I don't have a political position. I make mine up as I go along.

I guess I can usually be classed as liberal, but I am happy to break ranks.

Where's the none of the above option?
 
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  • #13
I have afriend who is a fachist, a friend who is a communist. I am a, I don`t know what I am?
 
  • #14
Originally posted by FZ+
I don't have a political position. I make mine up as I go along.

I guess I can usually be classed as liberal, but I am happy to break ranks.

Where's the none of the above option?

Ditto, but you can call it "apolitical", 'Without politics', as what I seek is the best path.
 
  • #15
My political position is six feet under. I put it there myself.
 
  • #16
Originally posted by N_Quire
You left out social democrat and you lumped socialist with communist, which isn't right. I'm a right socialist or a left liberal. I am definitely not a communist.

Same here... I consider myself a liberal who supports social programs.

Actually, I also consider myself a free-thinker. I have no undying allegiance to any ideological group. I always consider individual issues when taking sides. Some might call that an anarchist... as many call Noam Chomsky an anarachist... but I don't really care for labels anyway.

eNtRopY
 
  • #17
i am glad to see we are all out of the box thinking hippies
 
  • #18
does the political position commutes with the political momentum?
 
  • #19
Politics? Bah, humbug
 

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