When an idea pops fully formed into your head

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The discussion revolves around the phenomenon of ideas appearing fully formed in consciousness after a period of subconscious processing. Participants explore the psychological and cognitive neuroscience aspects of this experience, often referred to as "incubation." The conversation includes personal anecdotes and reflections on the nature of subconscious thought.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes an experience of an idea arriving fully formed after subconscious processing, seeking the specific term for this phenomenon.
  • Another participant suggests that the term might be "incubation," which is later confirmed by the original poster.
  • Several participants share personal experiences of similar occurrences, particularly in relation to tasks like solving crosswords, suggesting that subconscious processing continues when the conscious mind is distracted.
  • One participant humorously notes that ideas that pop into their head are often wrong, raising questions about the reliability of such insights.
  • A reference is made to Kekulé's structure of benzene as a historical example of incubation, linking it to the broader discussion of subconscious thought processes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the concept of incubation as a valid explanation for the phenomenon discussed. However, there are differing views on the reliability of ideas that emerge in this way, with some expressing skepticism about their accuracy.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention personal anecdotes that highlight the variability of experiences related to subconscious processing, suggesting that individual differences may play a role in how and when ideas emerge.

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This discussion may be of interest to those studying psychology, cognitive science, or anyone curious about the processes of creativity and problem-solving.

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Something's been bugging me lately. A while ago I read a book on consciousness (A very short introduction by Susan Blackmore) that outlined a term for when an idea get's subconsciously worked out and then arrives fully formed in your conscious. You know the type of thing when a problem at work/school has been troubling you for hours, you leave it and go do something else like cook dinner and halfway through peeling a potato the answer to your problem just appears in a flash of inspiration. There is a proper term in psychology/cognitive neuroscience to describe it.

The problem is I no longer have the book and I've forgotten the term! Googling "idea popped into head" and other variants isn't helping. Any ideas anyone??
 
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Can't you just contact Susan Blackmore herself??
I've done similarly on a number of occasions with other professionals, and have usually got both an answer, and an informative one, as well.
http://www.susanblackmore.co.uk/
 
Do you mean incubation?
 
apeiron said:
Do you mean incubation?

Yes! Exactly this, thank you! :biggrin:


arildno said:
Can't you just contact Susan Blackmore herself??
I've done similarly on a number of occasions with other professionals, and have usually got both an answer, and an informative one, as well.
http://www.susanblackmore.co.uk/

I would have done if I hadn't just got the answer. Thanks anyway!
 
ryan_m_b said:
Yes! Exactly this, thank you! :biggrin:

It would have popped into your head anyway. :smile:
 
apeiron said:
It would have popped into your head anyway. :smile:

That would have been nice and ironic :-p
 
This often happens to me when doing crosswords. I might sit there and agonise over a word for a long time, and still not get it. In disgust, I walk away from it. As I'm making a cup of tea, or sometimes, when I look at it again, it immediately jumps into my mind.

I figure that some suconscious calculation continues to occur when one's conscious mind is removed from the task.
 
alt said:
This often happens to me when doing crosswords. I might sit there and agonise over a word for a long time, and still not get it. In disgust, I walk away from it. As I'm making a cup of tea, or sometimes, when I look at it again, it immediately jumps into my mind.

I figure that some suconscious calculation continues to occur when one's conscious mind is removed from the task.

Isn't it worrying when your subconscious seems to be more intelligent than the conscious? lol
 
My experience is that when an idea "pops" fully formed into my head, it is invariably wrong!
 
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HallsofIvy said:
My experience is that when an idea "pops" fully formed into my head, it is invariably wrong!

It must have popped into your head fully formed then ?
 
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