When do the laws of general relativity breakdown?

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The discussion centers on the intersection of general relativity (GR) and quantum mechanics (QM), specifically addressing when GR breaks down and QM takes precedence. Participants note that GR is utilized for large-scale phenomena like stars and galaxies, while QM governs the behavior of sub-atomic particles. A consensus emerges that there is currently no experimental data definitively indicating a breakdown of GR, although conflicts arise in extreme conditions, such as inside black holes. The conversation highlights the ongoing challenge of reconciling these two fundamental theories in physics.

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Ok, firstly I just want to say I have a layman's interest in physics. But from my limited understanding physicists use the theory of general relativity to understand big things like stars and galaxies and use quantum mechanics to understand the very small things like atoms and sub-atomic particles. My question is when does general relativity breakdown and quantum mechanics take over? Is there some critical size or point this happens? Or is it a gradual progression? I hope these questions make sense :).
 
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joebloggs said:
when does general relativity breakdown and quantum mechanics take over?

We don't know yet. As far as I know, there is as yet no experimental data on gravitation that unambiguously shows a breakdown of GR.
 
My question is when does general relativity breakdown and quantum mechanics take over?
Inside a black hole these theories are in conflict. This implies that there is a breakdown in one or the other or both.
 
joebloggs said:
Ok, firstly I just want to say I have a layman's interest in physics. But from my limited understanding physicists use the theory of general relativity to understand big things like stars and galaxies and use quantum mechanics to understand the very small things like atoms and sub-atomic particles. My question is when does general relativity breakdown and quantum mechanics take over? Is there some critical size or point this happens? Or is it a gradual progression? I hope these questions make sense :).

I always thought it was when you approach the sub-atomic level.
 
befragen said:
I always thought it was when you approach the sub-atomic level.
There is no contradiction under ordinary (outside of black holes) conditions, such as in any Earth lab.
 
I recently asked a similar question on this forum. Relativity is responsible for a lot of interesting effects such as the color of gold and the liquid state of mercury. If you go back a page or two you should be able to find my thread; there are some pretty interesting responses and links.
 

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