When do you know you have understood physics?

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The discussion centers on the philosophical aspects of understanding physics, emphasizing the importance of being able to explain complex topics clearly, as articulated by Richard Feynman. Participants reflect on their personal experiences with comprehension, noting that true understanding involves breaking down concepts and reconstructing them in one's own words. The conversation highlights the challenge of grasping the vastness of physics, with many acknowledging that no one can fully know all aspects of the field. A participant shares their method of understanding academic papers through repeated readings and summarization, feeling confident when they can relate new information to previous knowledge. The dialogue also touches on the inadequacy of provided options for measuring understanding, with some expressing skepticism about self-evaluation in physics comprehension. Overall, the thread explores the nuances of understanding in physics and the subjective nature of measuring that understanding through personal experiences and academic engagement.

When do you know you have understood a topic in physics?

  • Never

    Votes: 8 57.1%
  • After passing an academic course

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • After receiving an academic qualification

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • After publishing a peer-reviewed article

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • After publishing a monograph

    Votes: 1 7.1%
  • After receiving the Nobel prize

    Votes: 1 7.1%
  • After teaching it to a child

    Votes: 4 28.6%

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This is rather a philosophical question, so I will limit it to a topic in physics. I'm interested in knowing your opinion, and perhaps your thoughts on how physics is being developed and progressed today.
 
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I voted with Feynman:
"If you can't explain something to a first year student, then you haven't really understood." ~ Richard P. Feynman
 
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For me (internally), it is when I believe I can walk in front of an audience at any level of sophistication and explain the topic at hand. Pretty close to the Feynman attribute.
I do however know that know nothing.
 
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How much of physics? These days nobody can know all of it.
 
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“What I cannot create, I do not understand.”
-Richard Feynman (one of two quotes scrawled on his blackboard discovered after his death)

He seemed to mean you should be able to break a topic down and "recreate" it from scratch in your own words/understanding and build it back up to explain to someone. You shouldn't just accept someone's explanation or vague gesture at an explanation, but really break it down to a point that you can build it back up in your own logic/words/understanding.
 
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I'm surprised that none of the options was "When your understanding matches experiment"
 
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The options are not enough, unfortunately.

As a student whose interests lie in beams, when I read a paper, I know I have understood it when I read another paper along the same lines, and I find that with my knowledge of the earlier paper, I can understand the other paper. Often, I read a paper twice or thrice, and then make notes from it, which summarizes the main points in the paper, and then I know which parts I have understood, and which I haven't.

In a recent virtual visit to the ATLAS, a question was asked which was not in the realm of the hosts. It was regarding beam operation in the LHC, and I had already read a paper on that specific topic, so I answered it. Well, definitely not in very layman terms, so not akin to explaining it to a child. But afterwards, I had a good feeling that I was able to answer somebody's question.
 
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bobdavis said:
"When your understanding matches experiment"
What experiment(s) have helped you know what you have understood?

Wrichik Basu said:
The options are not enough, unfortunately.
What additional options would you include, and why?
 
ipsky said:
What additional options would you include
"None of the above."
ipsky said:
and why?
See my post #7. None of the given options apply to me.
 
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Wrichik Basu said:
See my post #7. None of the given options apply to me.
Yes, I understand none of the options apply to you. I thus asked for the option(s) that 'do' apply to you. I'm hesitant to consider comprehension of a few papers, and answering a few questions on them, as a measure of how well one understands a topic in physics. If you believe it has helped you, then I would like to know how accurately others can evaluate the same for themselves.
 
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IMO one never truly understands a topic in physics, one merely gets used to it (kind of like marriage).
 
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