When does the argument of a complex number follow the sum of angles formula?

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The discussion centers on the conditions under which the argument of the product of two complex numbers follows the sum of angles formula, specifically examining the equation \arg(z_1 z_2) = \arg(z_1) + \arg(z_2). The scope includes mathematical reasoning and technical exploration of complex number properties.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about the conditions that make \arg(z_1 z_2) = \arg(z_1) + \arg(z_2) true.
  • One participant suggests writing out the equations for the arguments of the complex numbers and solving them, indicating a potential complexity in the calculations.
  • Another participant elaborates on the equation involving inverse tangents and presents a specific equation to solve, expressing skepticism about its complexity.
  • There is a mention of using the exponential or polar form of complex numbers as a potentially simpler approach to the problem.
  • One participant points out that using the tangent function can simplify the handling of inverse tangents in the context of the sum of angles formula.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the best approach to solve the problem, with some favoring direct manipulation of the arguments and others suggesting alternative forms. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the most effective method to demonstrate the relationship.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the complexity of manipulating arguments of complex numbers and the potential pitfalls of using inverse trigonometric functions. There is an implicit assumption that the participants are familiar with the properties of complex numbers and trigonometric identities.

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When is it true that \arg\left(z_1 z_2\right) = \arg(z_1) + \arg(z_2)?
 
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Snowfall said:
When is it true that \arg\left(z_1 z_2\right) = \arg(z_1) + \arg(z_2)?

Why don't you just write out the equations for argument and solve them?
 
chiro said:
Why don't you just write out the equations for argument and solve them?
You mean like defining, for real numbers a, b, c, d,

z_{1} := ai+b, ~ z_{2} := ci+d

then solving the following daunting looking equation:

\tan^{-1}\left(\frac{ad+bc}{bd-ac}\right) = \tan^{-1}\frac{b}{a}+\tan^{-1}\frac{d}{c}.

Please by all means show me how to solve that one! :eek:
 
Snowfall said:
You mean like defining, for real numbers a, b, c, d,

z_{1} := ai+b, ~ z_{2} := ci+d

then solving the following daunting looking equation:

\tan^{-1}\left(\frac{ad+bc}{bd-ac}\right) = \tan^{-1}\frac{b}{a}+\tan^{-1}\frac{d}{c}.

Please by all means show me how to solve that one! :eek:

Divide num and denom by bd and you get :

\tan(\arg(z_1 z_2)) = \frac{a/b+c/d}{1 - (a/b) \,\, (c/d)} = \frac{\tan(arg(z_1))+\tan(\arg(z_2))}{1 - \tan(\arg(z_1)) \tan(\arg(z_2))} = \tan(\arg(z_1) + \arg(z_2))

However it's easier to use the exponential or polar form.

r_1 e^{i \phi_1} \, r_2 e^{i \phi_2} = r_1 \, r_2 \, e^{i(\phi_1 + \phi_2)}
 
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Since you have got inverse tangents, it's wise to take tangents to get rid of them. For the right hand side, you can consider the sum of angle formula for the tangent:
\tan(x+y)=\frac{\tan x+\tan y}{1-\tan x\tan y}
 

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