Where Can I Find Resources for Learning Set Theory and Topology?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding resources for learning set theory and topology, with participants sharing various books, online materials, and personal experiences related to these topics. The scope includes independent study, recommendations for textbooks, and discussions about the historical context of set theory.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses interest in learning set theory as a precursor to topology and seeks recommendations for resources.
  • Another suggests chapter 0 of Munkres' "Topology" as a valuable resource.
  • Concerns are raised about the cost of textbooks, with a request for free online resources.
  • A link to a PDF on set theory is shared, although it is described as weak compared to traditional textbooks.
  • Halmos' "Naive Set Theory" is mentioned as a standard text, though noted to be condensed and potentially challenging.
  • Participants share links to various resources, including lists of people working on set theory and their notes.
  • Some participants recommend Jech's book for a comprehensive understanding of set theory.
  • Historical perspectives on set theory are discussed, including Cantor's contributions and the independence of certain axioms from others.
  • Several older texts are mentioned, including works by Kamke, Hausdorff, and Breuer, with varying opinions on their effectiveness.
  • Price discrepancies for the same book are noted, highlighting potential issues with booksellers.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There is no consensus on a single best resource for learning set theory or topology, as participants present multiple competing views and recommendations. The discussion remains unresolved regarding which texts are most suitable for beginners.

Contextual Notes

Participants express differing opinions on the quality and accessibility of various resources, with some emphasizing the importance of library rentals over purchasing expensive textbooks. The discussion includes references to historical developments in set theory, which may not be universally agreed upon.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in self-studying set theory and topology, educators seeking teaching materials, and those curious about the historical context and evolution of these mathematical fields may find this discussion beneficial.

  • #31
Here is my opinion on this. There are two paths you can take. One is, you can try and get an "ok" grasp on foundations of mathematics in order to prepare yourself for topology, or you can assume the foundations and go on.

If you are studying set theory, then why not study mathematical logic first (well formed formulas etc), then move up to set theory then move up to topology. This is imo a waste of time since most of the math you'll ever do assumes this stuff.

Or you can (this is the choice I recommend) just skip set theory and do topology.

All you need to know are the basics:
-What a set is.
-What a union and intersection is.
-De Morgan's Laws
-FACT: If I give you a set filled with an uncountable number of objects, you can pick an object from it. (called the axiom of choice).

I believe that if you pick up Munkrees (Like someone mentioned earlier) you can do the first 9 sections, skip 10/11 and learn all the topology you want, well worth the $50. Even feel free to skip the first 9 sections if you are decent with bijections, peano etc.
 

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