Where Does Momentum Go Near Merging Black Holes?

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The discussion centers on the behavior of momentum in the context of merging black holes and the implications of general relativity. It establishes that when black holes merge, they do not create new gravity; instead, the gravitational effects remain equivalent to the combined effects of the individual black holes. Momentum is conserved locally, and any apparent loss of momentum from one rocket must be accounted for by local gravitational waves. The conversation highlights the necessity of understanding relativistic physics to grasp these concepts fully.

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Let's say you start 2 rockets in the opposite direction from a platform that's close to two soon to be merging black holes, the first rocket starts way before the second, but the second will ultimately fly a bit further, before they stop and fly back to towards the black hole(s). When black holes merge, they create new gravity and this gravity is supposed to attract the rockets. The second rocket who is closer to the merged black hole and has more momentum than the first rocket will not make it as far as the first one. This means that the second rocket that had more momentum, is losing some momentum and the first rocket will actually fly back faster. Where has the momentum of the second rocket gone?

But what if gravity doesn't really attract, but it actually increases the momentum and this effect is only visible when new gravity is created?
 
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Filmo said:
When black holes merge, they create new gravity
The merger of black holes does not create new gravity. Heuristically, the gravitation of one merged hole is the same as the combined gravitational effects of two separate holes.

In general relativity, momentum is conserved locally. I am not expert enough to know how this translates into global momentum conservation. Or the extent to which a law of global momentum conservation can even be stated in the context of curved space-time.
 
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Filmo said:
Let's say you start 2 rockets in the opposite direction from a platform that's close to two soon to be merging black holes, the first rocket starts way before the second, but the second will ultimately fly a bit further, before they stop and fly back to towards the black hole(s). When black holes merge, they create new gravity and this gravity is supposed to attract the rockets. The second rocket who is closer to the merged black hole and has more momentum than the first rocket will not make it as far as the first one. This means that the second rocket that had more momentum, is losing some momentum and the first rocket will actually fly back faster. Where has the momentum of the second rocket gone?
This post is too much a confusion of ideas to be answerable. There are no black holes in classical physics - so, as an absolute minimum you would need to upgrade your ideas of time, space, momentum and motion from classical to relativistic thinking.
 
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Filmo said:
When black holes merge, they create new gravity
What does this mean? Are you taking about non-linear parts of the Einstein field equations? If so, can you point a reference to exactly what effects you mean by this?

Momentum is locally conserved, so if any momentum disappears from the matter then it must go into local gravitational waves.
 
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Dale said:
Are you taking about non-linear parts of the Einstein field equations?
Not in a B-level thread, I would imagine!
 
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PeroK said:
Not in a B-level thread, I would imagine!
Definitely not! But I cannot think of any other legitimate meaning for the phrase about creating new gravity.
 
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