Which country is ranked as the best for females in the G20?

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The discussion revolves around the rankings of G20 countries regarding their conditions for women, as reported by various sources. Participants explore the implications of these rankings, the criteria used for evaluation, and express personal reactions to the results.

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  • Some participants express surprise at the rankings, particularly noting that Saudi Arabia ranks above India, which raises questions about the criteria used.
  • There is a suggestion that the perception of Germany and France's standings may be influenced by specific policies, such as France's ban on burqas, which could affect women's freedoms.
  • One participant questions the high score Canada received in human trafficking, citing past reports that criticized Canada's efforts in this area.
  • Another participant discusses the implications of female university graduation rates, questioning whether a higher percentage of female graduates indicates a negative situation for men.
  • Concerns are raised about the validity of the rankings and the methodologies used to assess the conditions for women in these countries.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the rankings or the implications of the data presented. Multiple competing views remain regarding the interpretation of the rankings and the conditions for women in the G20 countries.

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Participants highlight limitations in the data, including the lack of clarity on how various factors are weighted in the rankings and the differing perspectives on the conditions for women in each country.

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http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Canada+best+country+females/6780157/story.html

I am bit surprised to see following ranks:

1. Canada

2. Germany

3. Britain

4. Australia

5. France

6. United States

7. Japan

8. Italy

9. Argentina

10. South Korea

11. Brazil

12. Turkey

13. Russia

14. China

15. Mexico

16. South Africa

17. Indonesia

18. Saudi Arabia

19. India - Reuters
 
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Which ones do you find surprising? Looks about right to me.
 
Hmm... it wouldn't be a news story in Vancouver, unless Canada came either first or last!
 
Jack21222 said:
Which ones do you find surprising? Looks about right to me.

Few surprises:
- Religiously conservative country like SA is above India
- Canada is number 1 :smile:
- Germany/France are not as better for women than Canada as I thought
 
AlephZero said:
Hmm... it wouldn't be a news story in Vancouver, unless Canada came either first or last!

I usually prefer to use Vancouver Sun since I love Vancouver so much! :smile:
 
rootX said:
- Germany/France are not as better for women than Canada as I thought
I suppose it depends on just how one measures. France may take a hit for banning burqas and allegedly reducing the freedoms of women or they may just as well get a boost from it for fighting the oppression of women.
 
Here's the original source:
www.trust.org/trustlaw/news/special-coverage/g20women/
Here's a fact sheet of how the report was generated:
http://www.trust.org/documents/womens-rights/resources/G20Poll2012-methodologyandresults.pdf
Regarding the ranking:
How were the countries ranked? said:
Respondents were asked to rank the three best and three worst countries for women in seven different categories: workplace opportunities, access to resources, participation in politics, quality of health, freedom from violence, freedom from trafficking and slavery, and an “overall” category. Countries were ranked based on their scores in each category.
It goes into more detail as to why the rankings are the way they are. For example for Canada (the best) and India (the worse);
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And the rating for men-country should not be that much different.

I do wonder why Canada received such a high score in the human trafficking item (11.71) (US 4.0 ) especially in light of the fact that the US recently gave Canada a nudge to do some updates on the issue. Although 19 would have been a perfect score.

This is from a few years and somewhat current:
A 2003 US report on human trafficking1 found little Canadian data and described Canada as lacking a national strategy on trafficking, making little effort to prosecute traffickers, giving victims no assistance or protection, and frequently deporting or charging them as criminals. The report therefore downgraded Canada from the (top) rating of a tier 1 country to one of the 75 tier 2 countries,1 which include Albania, Angola and Bangladesh. Until 2004, Canada focused its efforts mostly on prevention, with strict migration rules and by contributing to anti-trafficking funds in source countries.1
http://www.cmaj.ca/content/173/1/25.full

NGOs and government agencies do not agree on the assessment of the problem in Canada.
 
I'm curious; looking at the example of Canada, it is saying that "62% of university graduates are female" makes the country good for women. Presumably this is because it is more than half. This implies that only 38% of university graduates are male. Does this make the country bad for men?
 
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TheShrike said:
This implies that only 38% of university graduates are male. Does this make the country bad for men?
No because it's extremely unlikely that men are underrepresented because of oppressive laws or customs. The same can't be said for a low number of female graduates. If course though this statistic can't be taken in of itself but rather as a marker to be looked into.
 
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Ryan_m_b said:
Here's the original source:
www.trust.org/trustlaw/news/special-coverage/g20women/
Here's a fact sheet of how the report was generated:
http://www.trust.org/documents/womens-rights/resources/G20Poll2012-methodologyandresults.pdf
Regarding the ranking:

It goes into more detail as to why the rankings are the way they are. For example for Canada (the best) and India (the worse);

Something interesting I came across a day before I read the rankings:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2012/04/13/third-child-male-india-mothers.html
Ratio of 136 boys to 100 girls raises issue of selective abortion

It's funny how the worst G20 country women still suffer even when they are in the best G20 country for the women.
 
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