Which fermions are chiral besides neutrinos?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the nature of chiral fermions in the context of a local bosonic emergent string net model proposed by Wen. Participants explore the question of whether fermions other than neutrinos can be classified as chiral, particularly in relation to their interactions in the Standard Model (SM).

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Wen's model can produce electrons, photons, quarks, and gluons, but he claims it cannot produce chiral fermions, leading to questions about the definition of chirality.
  • Some participants assert that all fermions are chiral due to their participation in weak interactions, which couple to only one chirality.
  • There is confusion regarding Wen's statement about the inability to produce neutrinos, as neutrinos are identified as chiral by some participants.
  • A participant questions whether left-handed and right-handed electrons or quarks interact differently through the weak force, to which another participant confirms that they do.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the classification of fermions as chiral, with some asserting that all fermions are chiral while others reference Wen's claims, indicating a lack of consensus on the definitions and implications of chirality in this context.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions regarding the definitions of chirality and the implications of Wen's model, particularly concerning the treatment of neutrinos and the interactions of left-handed versus right-handed fermions.

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Wen local bosonic emergent string net model states he can give rise to electrons and photons, quarks and gluons but not chiral fermions.

I know neutrinos are chiral. Any other fermions?

If he can provide an explanation for masses and mixing angles for all SM particles except neutrinos, I'd say his model is off to a good start.
 
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To my knowledge, all fermions are chiral because all fermions participate in weak interaction, which only couples to one chirality.
 
hamster143 said:
To my knowledge, all fermions are chiral because all fermions participate in weak interaction, which only couples to one chirality.

So why does Wen state he can give rise to electrons and quarks using string net condensation, but not neutrinos b/c neutrinos are chiral?
 
Beats me. Ask Wen :) Maybe he has a different non-standard definition of 'chiral'.
 
hamster143 said:
Beats me. Ask Wen :) Maybe he has a different non-standard definition of 'chiral'.

So if all fermions are chiral, does a left-handed electron or quark interact differently through the weak force than a right-handed electron?
 
Yes.
 

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