Which Ion Forms a White Precipitate with Dilute HCl That Dissolves When Warmed?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around identifying which ion from a colorless solution forms a white precipitate with dilute HCl that dissolves upon warming. Participants explore the properties of various ions, including Ag+, Cu2+, Hg22+, and Pb2+, and their behavior in the presence of HCl.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant rules out Cu2+ due to its solubility as copper chloride, while noting that AgCl, Hg2Cl2, and PbCl2 are all white precipitates.
  • Another participant suggests that knowledge of solubility rules is essential, mentioning that AgCl and BaSO4 are notably insoluble.
  • A later reply indicates that the precipitate that dissolves when warmed is likely PbCl2, as it is known to be soluble in warm water.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the solubility of Hg2Cl2 and PbCl2 when heated, recalling vague memories rather than definitive knowledge.
  • Another participant admits to misreading the question regarding whether the precipitate dissolves when heated.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on which ion is correct, with some supporting Pb2+ as the answer while others remain uncertain or suggest alternative ions. The discussion does not reach a consensus.

Contextual Notes

Some participants reference qualitative analysis concepts and solubility rules, but there are unresolved uncertainties regarding the behavior of the ions in question, particularly under varying conditions.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to students studying qualitative inorganic analysis, solubility rules, or those preparing for chemistry examinations.

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Homework Statement


A colorless solution is known to contain one of these ions. Which ion is present if adding dilute HCl produces a white precipitate that dissolves when the solution is warmed?

A) Ag+
B) Cu2+
C) Hg22+
D) Pb2+

Homework Equations


N/A

The Attempt at a Solution


The only one I could really rule out was copper chloride, as it is soluble. I'm stuck because I know that AgCl, Hg2Cl2, and PbCl2 are all white precipitates. Without using a chart, how can I determine qualitatively which dissolves in a warmed solution? Thank you in advance.
 
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Teemo said:

Homework Statement


A colorless solution is known to contain one of these ions. Which ion is present if adding dilute HCl produces a white precipitate that dissolves when the solution is warmed?

A) Ag+
B) Cu2+
C) Hg22+
D) Pb2+

Homework Equations


N/A

The Attempt at a Solution


The only one I could really rule out was copper chloride, as it is soluble. I'm stuck because I know that AgCl, Hg2Cl2, and PbCl2 are all white precipitates. Without using a chart, how can I determine qualitatively which dissolves in a warmed solution? Thank you in advance.

I'd say there is know way of knowing this except just knowing it.

There are a few facts about solubility you really should know. Most nitrates soluble, AgCl, BaSO4 outstandingly insoluble. I remember those two from seeing so often in qualitative chemistry demonstrations and experiments. In practical 'qualitative analysis'. And quantitative analysis - which depends on their extreme insolubility. And then do you know about barium enemas? All knowledge hooks like that help.

So if I were answering the question I would have answered Ag+ as they imply only one answer is right. :biggrin:

I have an almost totally washed out memory of the other two dissolving slightly when heated. But it is not exactly a piece of knowledge I ever used every day.

I have an even fadeder memory of something about lead pipes being used for drinking water (which is slightly acid) since the time of the Romans (a few of whom lived till 50 and even longer) but that there were problems when running hot water was invented, or when some lead was used in metal cooking pots. That may not be true but it helps remember.

You can find stuff by google.

http://www.public.asu.edu/~jpbirk/qual/qualanal/lead.html

www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaWdhxlvEAE
 
I don't know if you've studied Qualitative Inorganic Analysis yet, but the ions which get precipitated but dil. HCl are called Group I ion, which are Ag+, Hg2+, and Pb2+. Upon adding the reagent they precipitate as chlorides. SInce they gave that the precipitate dissolves when the solution is warm it indicated that the chloride is PbCl2, as it has an interesting (and important!) property that it is soluble in warm water. So the answer is D
 
Sorry I had
misread or something, my answer was if it does not dissolve when heated.
 

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