Which is Greater: $\log_{10}12$ or $(\log_{10}5)^2+(\log_{10}7)^2$?

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The discussion revolves around comparing the values of $\log_{10}12$ and $(\log_{10}5)^2+(\log_{10}7)^2$. Participants are asked to provide reasoning for which expression is greater, exploring mathematical reasoning and calculations.

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State with reason which of these is greater?

$\log_{10}12$ or $(\log_{10}5)^2+(\log_{10}7)^2$?
 
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anemone said:
State with reason which of these is greater?

$\log_{10}12$ or $(\log_{10}5)^2+(\log_{10}7)^2$?

Hint:

Extended Cauchy-Schwarz Inequality
 
My calculator was faster. (Yes)

-Dan
 
anemone said:
State with reason which of these is greater?

$\log_{10}12$ or $(\log_{10}5)^2+(\log_{10}7)^2$?

My solution:

Note that by using the extended Cauchy-Schwarz inequality, we have

$\dfrac{(\log_{10}5)^2}{1}+\dfrac{(\log_{10}7)^2}{1}\ge \dfrac{(\log_{10}5+\log_{10}7)^2}{1+1}=\dfrac{(\log_{10}35)^2}{2}$

But we know $35^2=1225>10^3$, so $\log_{10}35>\dfrac{3}{2}$ and therefore $\dfrac{(\log_{10}35)^2}{2}>\dfrac{9}{8}$.

If we can prove $\dfrac{9}{8}>\log_{10} 12$, then we can conclude $(\log_{10}5)^2+(\log_{10}7)^2>\log_{10}12$.

Observe that $10^3=1000>864=\dfrac{12^3}{2}$, so we get $10^9>\dfrac{12^9}{8}$, since $\dfrac{12^9}{8}>12^8$, we have proved $10^9>12^8$, i.e. $\dfrac{9}{8}>\log_{10} 12$.

Therefore, $\dfrac{(\log_{10}5)^2}{1}+\dfrac{(\log_{10}7)^2}{1}\ge\dfrac{(\log_{10}35)^2}{2}\ge\dfrac{9}{8}>\log_{10} 12$.
 

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