Which measure of center is most accurate for the batting averages of a team?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around determining the most accurate measure of center for two sets of data: rainfall amounts with outliers and batting averages of a baseball team. Participants explore the appropriateness of using the mean or median for these datasets, considering the presence of outliers and the characteristics of the data.

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  • Some participants suggest that the median is a better measure for the rainfall data due to the presence of outliers.
  • Others propose that the mean is suitable for the batting averages, as it summarizes the team's overall performance effectively.
  • There is a discussion about the guidelines stating that the mean should be used for similar values and the median for data with outliers, leading to confusion among participants.
  • One participant notes that defining outliers can be subjective, mentioning the use of standard deviations as a criterion.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about the appropriateness of their conclusions and seek further clarification.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the use of the median for the rainfall data and the mean for the batting averages, but there is confusion regarding the guidelines and the definitions of outliers. The discussion remains unresolved as participants express differing interpretations of when to apply each measure.

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The discussion highlights the subjective nature of identifying outliers and the potential for differing interpretations of statistical guidelines, which may affect the choice of measures of center.

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The rainfall (in inches) in the month of June for 7 years is recorded below.
20, 24, 53, 13,0, 43, 36
What is the best measure of center ?The batting averages of 10 players of a team are
0.338, 0.234, 0.256, 0.321, 0.333, 0.290, 0.148, 0.222, 0.300, 0.276
What is the best measure of center ?

Please help/explain.
 
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Hello rebo1984 and welcome to MHB! :D

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Can you post what you have done so far?
 
greg1313 said:
Hello rebo1984 and welcome to MHB! :D

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I'm not sure what the answer is. Since the first one has outliers, I thought the median would be the better choice. The second one I think can be done using the mean. I am not sure, looking for an explanation.
 
rebo1984 said:
i'm not sure what the answer is. Since the first one has outliers, i thought the median would be the better choice. The second one i think can be done using the mean. I am not sure, looking for an explanation.

could someone please help?
 
rebo1984 said:
could someone please help?

Hi rebo1984,

What rules and guidelines have you been given to decide? In general I agree with your answers. The median is less sensitive to outliers and given the spread of the data is set 1 that makes sense. In set 2 I think the mean would nicely capture the team's batting average as the (# of hits for all 10 players)/(# times at bat for all 10 players). This nicely summarizes the team's actual performance with these 10 players. So overall I agree with your post, but knowing how you are supposed to justify these could be helpful. :)
 
Jameson said:
Hi rebo1984,

What rules and guidelines have you been given to decide? In general I agree with your answers. The median is less sensitive to outliers and given the spread of the data is set 1 that makes sense. In set 2 I think the mean would nicely capture the team's batting average as the (# of hits for all 10 players)/(# times at bat for all 10 players). This nicely summarizes the team's actual performance with these 10 players. So overall I agree with your post, but knowing how you are supposed to justify these could be helpful. :)

The guidelines state that the mean should be used if the values are similar, and that the median should be used if there are outliers, yet the answers are reversed.So I'm confused.
 
rebo1984 said:
The guidelines state that the mean should be used if the values are similar, and that the median should be used if there are outliers, yet the answers are reversed.So I'm confused.

Yes, those are typically how these two metrics for the center of the data are used. So it comes down to how do we define "having outliers"? In real life this becomes a little bit subjective, but often we can say we look at the mean and points lie outside of 3-4 standard deviations from the mean, then there are outliers. In beginning statistics courses, usually it's more of an eyeball cutoff. How have you over outliers? Are you saying that you have heard the answers to these should be reversed?
 
Jameson said:
Yes, those are typically how these two metrics for the center of the data are used. So it comes down to how do we define "having outliers"? In real life this becomes a little bit subjective, but often we can say we look at the mean and points lie outside of 3-4 standard deviations from the mean, then there are outliers. In beginning statistics courses, usually it's more of an eyeball cutoff. How have you over outliers? Are you saying that you have heard the answers to these should be reversed?

Yes, the answers are reversed.