How Does Electron Degeneracy Allow White Dwarf Stars to Emit Light?

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The discussion centers around the mechanisms by which white dwarf stars emit light, particularly in the context of electron degeneracy pressure and its implications for electron energy levels. Participants explore the relationship between degeneracy, temperature, and light emission in white dwarfs.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that white dwarfs are supported by electron degeneracy pressure, which prevents electrons from falling to lower energy states, raising a question about how these stars can emit light.
  • Another participant explains that at absolute zero, degeneracy is complete, but at finite temperatures, some electrons can be excited above the Fermi level, allowing for interactions with photons.
  • A subsequent reply questions whether the immense pressure in white dwarfs contributes to the high temperatures necessary for these excitations and interactions.
  • Another participant suggests that degeneracy may only affect the lower energy levels in a white dwarf, implying that electrons in the upper levels and surface can still move and contribute to light emission.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of electron degeneracy for light emission, with no consensus reached on the specifics of how electron movement and temperature interplay in this context.

Contextual Notes

There are assumptions regarding the behavior of electrons under degeneracy pressure and the effects of temperature that remain unresolved, particularly concerning the specific conditions in different regions of a white dwarf.

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Yesterday i had a thought about when our sun runs out of energy and collapses into a white dwarf, it is my understanding when this happens a white dwarf is held up by electron degeneracy, all the electrons are under immense pressure but cannot fall to the lowest energy state therefore stopping the star from collapse due to gravity.
My question is how can this star still emit light as the electrons cannot change energy levels?
Unless my understanding of degeneracy is wrong and they can in fact change energy levels, if this is the case would anyone care to explain?

thanks
 
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At absolute zero the degeneracy is complete. All the states up to the Fermi level are occupied, and particles are unable to move from one state to another. (Electrons in a white dwarf, neutrons in a neutron star.) But at a finite temperature some of the particles are excited above the Fermi level, leaving vacancies, where some of them interact with other particles, such as photons.
 
[QUOTEAt absolute zero the degeneracy is complete. All the states up to the Fermi level are occupied, and particles are unable to move from one state to another. (Electrons in a white dwarf, neutrons in a neutron star.) But at a finite temperature some of the particles are excited above the Fermi level, leaving vacancies, where some of them interact with other particles, such as photons.][/QUOTE]

Is it the immense pressure that is causing this high temperature creating interactions?
 
I think the degeneracy only occurs in the lower levels of the white dwarf, whereas on the upper levels and with the atmosphere on the surface electrons can still move.
 

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