Who Was Ahead at the 6-Second Mark in the 100m Race?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving two sprinters, Maggie and Judy, who both complete a 100 m race in 10 seconds. The problem requires determining their accelerations, maximum speeds, and which sprinter was ahead at the 6-second mark, while considering their uniform acceleration phases.

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  • Participants discuss the need to apply kinematic equations to find acceleration and maximum speed, with some questioning the initial velocities of the sprinters. Others explore the use of graphical representations of velocity over time to analyze the problem.

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Participants have shared various approaches to the problem, including the use of equations for distance and velocity. Some have provided insights into the structure of the problem, while others are still seeking clarification on how to proceed with calculations, particularly regarding the initial conditions and the application of formulas.

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There is uncertainty regarding the initial velocities of the sprinters, with some participants suggesting they should be considered as zero. The discussion also highlights the need to calculate distances covered during both the acceleration and constant speed phases.

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Setting a world record in a 100 m race, Maggie and Judy cross the finish line in a dead heat, both taking 10.0 s. Accelerating uniformly, Maggie took 2.00 s and Judy 2.80 s to attain maximum speed, which they maintained for the rest of the race.
(a) What was the acceleration of each sprinter?



(b) What were their respective maximum speeds?


(c) Which sprinter was ahead at the 6.00 s mark?
Maggie
Judy
neither


(d) By how much was that sprinter ahead?


ok..so I've talked to like 10 million people..and nobody seems to know how to do it..

i have no idea where to start...i have to find the acceleration first...im just not sure if their initial velocities would be 0 or what?
 
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physics_geek said:
Setting a world record in a 100 m race, Maggie and Judy cross the finish line in a dead heat, both taking 10.0 s. Accelerating uniformly, Maggie took 2.00 s and Judy 2.80 s to attain maximum speed, which they maintained for the rest of the race.
(a) What was the acceleration of each sprinter?



(b) What were their respective maximum speeds?


(c) Which sprinter was ahead at the 6.00 s mark?
Maggie
Judy
neither


(d) By how much was that sprinter ahead?


ok..so I've talked to like 10 million people..and nobody seems to know how to do it..

i have no idea where to start...i have to find the acceleration first...im just not sure if their initial velocities would be 0 or what?


Well , since the acceleration is uniform , meaning constant, you would apply the kinematic equations for position, velocity and acceleration.
 


yea that's exactly what i thought!

but that's the thing..i don't know which equation to start with

i thought i would use the position equation
X final = Xinitial + Vinitial(t) + 1/2(a)t^2

and solve for acceleration

but i don't know what the initial velocity is..or how to find it
 


The way I approached this problem is to first consider one runner's graph of velocity in relation to time.

Since there's a uniform acceleration to a final velocity, the graph will have two phases. The first phase will be the acceleration phase which is a constant slope up to Vf (final velocity). The second phase will be a horizontal slope at V=Vf all the way until t=10.

The area under that graph is the distance covered and thus must be = 100.

For Maggie, you know the area of the rectangle in the second phase is Vf*8 (the number of seconds she spent at Vf). The first phase's area will be the area of a triangle because of the acceleration. That area will be (1/2)*Vf*(2).

Thus, (1/2)*Vf*2 + Vf*8 = 100
This gives you the final velocity. You can find accceleration from there, and so on.
 


Common sense,, the intial velocity is 0 saying as they haven't started running yet.
 


A slightly simpler solution:
Take one of the runners, for example the first one, and write the equation for the distance traveled (total):

d=1/2 a1 *t1^2 + vmax*(t-t1)
d=100m
t1=2s
vmax=a1*t1=a1*2s
t-t1=10s-2s=8s

Then you have
100m=0.5*a1*4+(a1*2s)*8s
Solve for a1;

Repeat for the other runner.
 


o thanks a lot

which sprinter was ahead at 6.00 s?

i think i use the position function...but i don't know what to plug in
 


Plug in the values for accelerations. Put t=6 seconds. Calculate the distance for each one.
 


physics_geek said:
o thanks a lot

which sprinter was ahead at 6.00 s?

i think i use the position function...but i don't know what to plug in

You need to first determine the distance each sprinter covered for each of their acceleration phases.

x = 1/2*a*t2

Then you figure the additional distance covered at their top speed with the remaining time budget to 6 seconds.
As before you know their top speed was a*t of the acceleration phase.
 

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